December 27, 2016, - 4:38 pm

Carrie Fisher: Her Lifestyle, Famous Star Wars Role Contradict “Feminist Icon” Legend – RIP

By Debbie Schlussel

As an American who loved Star Wars as a kid, it’s sad to see Carrie Fisher dead today at age 60. But her case illustrates an old axiom:



Live hard, die young.

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Fisher lived hard and abused herself and her body, so it’s no surprise she’s dead at the relatively young age of 60. It’s also no surprise that she didn’t look that great for a Hollywood woman of 60. That kind of lifestyle ages you very quickly. (However, for a regular American woman of 60–without trainers, chefs, and plastic surgery galore, she looked okay).

Fisher–as documented in her own books (including Postcards From the Edge), stand-up shows, and commentary–was a drug addict who drank hard, chased around married men, and bore a kid out of wedlock (yeah, I know we’re no longer supposed to look down on that. She was a lucky loser. Lucky, in that she was born into a showbiz family–Hollywood royalty–and had the connections to get the leading role as Princess Leia in the Star Wars movies. A loser, in that she repeatedly blew it all, snorting it up in her coke addiction and doing other wasteful, self-destructive stuff, despite all of the opportunities that flowed her way because of who she was. Then, she built another career around tawdry tell-alls. Not exactly admirable stuff.

Many are remembering Fisher as playing one of the first truly powerful, feminist roles in the movies, since Princess Leia wasn’t a victim or damsel in distress (but actually, she was–see the Jabba the Hutt scene; just sayin’). Supposedly, a lot of women who were girls when the original Star Wars trilogy came out, found a role model in her. But I was one of those girls, and I didn’t look up to her at all. That’s the thing: I never needed someone to have identical female plumbing in order for him/her to be a role model. Instead, I looked up to Han Solo and Luke Skywalker. They got the job done and saved the forces of good. To me, Princess Leia was kind of boring and bossy, but did none of the heavy lifting. She wasn’t the hero. She was the bitch ordering the heroes around, and that’s nothing to look up to (though that’s what essentially feminism instructs women to do). Who always saved her when she was in trouble a la Jabba’s lap? The men. That’s who. And that’s generally reality, despite what modern “she-ro” movies propagandize us to think.

And let’s be honest: she’s famous and a cultural icon because she wore that iconic metal bikini as Jabba’s slave. That’s feminism? Her most famous “act” other than that was classlessly revealing her affair with Harrison Ford. Was this necessary? For her bank account, yes. Again, welcome to “feminism” in practice.

Still, it’s sad to see the pop culture icons I grew up with pass away. It reminds us all that we are mere mortals and could, G-d forbid, die at anytime soon. It also reminds us that we’re all getting older.

Time and tide wait for no man. And they especially don’t wait for someone who blew every chance by doing drugs and sleeping around.

Carrie Fisher, Rest In Peace.

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Got to admit, I liked her better in When Harry Met Sally.

Little Al on December 27, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    When Harry Met Sally it’s a great movie. I thought it was smart! And I enjoyed Carrie Fisher in it too. Rest in peace Carrie

    Darrellhicks450@ on December 27, 2016 at 11:00 pm

My heart goes out to Carrie’s mother Debbie Reynolds. No one should bury their own child.

Darrellhicks450@ on December 27, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    It is a terrible blow to lose a child whose been yours for 60 years.

    Bt the way, for anyone who wants a fictional role model for young girls, I recommend Polly, in Louisa May Alcott’s An Old Fashioned Girl.

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 28, 2016 at 4:38 am

    I doubt Debbie Reynolds will be able to recover from the stroke.

    Debbie Reynolds just suffered a medical emergency, which we’re told is a possible stroke … and EMTs just raced to the scene, TMZ has learned.

    Debbie was at her son Todd Fisher’s home in Beverly Hills and just after 1 PM someone from the house called 911.

    We’re told 84-year-old Debbie, whose daughter, Carrie, died Tuesday, has been distraught since Carrie’s emergency Friday on a United jet.

    Darrellhicks450@ on December 28, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    Debbie Reynolds won’t be burning Her daughter now. Someone else will bury them both. Grieving mother couldn’t take it. Too much for her.

    William on December 28, 2016 at 9:35 pm

I was thinking of the “live hard, die young” dictum in regards to the death, last New Year’s Eve, of singer Natalie Cole at age 65. She had done drugs big-time (including and especially heroin) at the point of her first flush of fame in the 1970’s, and though she “cleaned up” the next decade, the lingering effects of her past drug abuse ended up catching up with her and she had recurring health problems to the end of her days. And like with Ms. Fisher, given all that, it was a wonder, if nothing short of a miracle, that Ms. Cole had lived as long as she did (even though she did ultimately live some two decades longer than her late father, Nat King Cole).

It was also reminiscent of what Dawn Wells, a.k.a. Mary Ann on “Gilligan’s Island,” commented about why more viewers preferred her character over Tina Louise’s Ginger: “Ginger is a one-night stand, while Mary Ann is for a lifetime.” Reading those words brought me back to Debbie’s article and accompanying comments regarding the 2015 Miss Universe pageant where Miss Colombia was deemed “more glamorous” but Debbie predicted she’d lose her looks faster, whereas Miss Philippines was more a “timeless, classic beauty.” Looking at recent photos of the two surviving “Gilligan” cast members seems to bear out Ms. Wells’ observations: The once-and-always Mary Ann has remained a “timeless, classic beauty,” while Ms. Louise . . . well, let’s just say she looks like she’s seen better days. Not unlike Carrie Fisher in her last years.

Concerned Patriot on December 27, 2016 at 11:33 pm

Darrell, I agree. I do feel for Debbie Reynolds, who has to do the last rites for Carrie. RIP, Carrie

Infidel on December 28, 2016 at 12:00 am

    Foreseeable unfortunately ????…

    Debbie Reynolds in serious condition due to a stroke.

    Debbie Reynolds just suffered a medical emergency, which we’re told is a possible stroke … and EMTs just raced to the scene, TMZ has learned.

    Debbie was at her son Todd Fisher’s home in Beverly Hills and just after 1 PM someone from the house called 911.

    We’re told 84-year-old Debbie, whose daughter, Carrie, died Tuesday, has been distraught since Carrie’s emergency Friday on a United jet.

    Darrellhicks450@ on December 28, 2016 at 7:11 pm

Well Deb. Sometimes I forget (So sorry to say!) that you’re younger than me. Consider that a compliment as your wisdom betrays your years.

I was never a Star Wars fan. The movies were OK, but the theme was pretty much “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich in Outer Space”… with a few twists in the personalities, gender, race, and all the LIB themes Hollywood force feeds us with.

The special effects were great. The action was great. The personal stories were good, but the overall background story was C-R-A-P! That told me everything I needed to know about Hollywood propaganda. I mean… come on! An emasculated robot, an unintelligible machine, an African-American analog (aka “Wookie”), a woman and ONE white guy defeat “the Third Reich in Outer Space.”

Back then, I was enjoying the brave new technology of VHS and watching MY heroes. REAL heroes named Moe, Larry and Curly. I would rather Moe, Larry and Curly run this country any day over O’Bama, Ryan, and McConnell. Our expectations of of Moe Larry and Curly would be no higher than what O’Bama, Ryan and McConnell delivered. Moe, Larry and Curly would easily out-perform today’s “Three Stooges”.

And perhaps because I’m really feeling my age these days, I still find the chicks on those Stooges flicks pretty hot. (Except for the ones who were deliberately not… and if you look real hard, some of them weren’t so bad either. OK! I told you I’m feeling my age. Hey! You started it! “It also reminds us that we’re all getting older.” Tee hee!)

Anyway, Carrie Fisher’s success and failures were hers to own. Star Wars movies were at best, fun but the story never really seized my attention.

I’d like to see Mel Brooks and George Lucas team up to make a movie. The Three Stooges go to the Moon to run away from the empire to return to the place of their ancestors. Through all their incompetent stumbling and bumbling, the Moon flourishes and becomes an impressive, affluent and livable planet. Darth Vader, Jabah the Hut, Killer Kane, Ming the Mercilless, Kahn, the Klingons, Romulans et al. are jealous. Decade after decade they wage war against the Stooges’ planet but lose every time. No matter how clumsy and stupid the Stooges are, they keep winning these wars of annihilation waged by the mighty and evil coalition of bad-guys. The action is great. The special effects are great. Each movie has the same basic plot: They tried to kill us–we won–lets eat; but the compelling personal stories are different for each movie. Children grow to adults remembering the story of how the Moon was re-born by the Three Stooges and their successors. Lucas and Brooks get rich(er) on the rights to the movies on the claim that the story is their original creation.

Happy Chanukah, Deb.

Regards,

There is NO Santa Claus (AKA TINSC)

P.S. I hope this comment is recognized as satire and that you (and your readers) don’t find it too bizarre.

There is NO Santa Claus on December 28, 2016 at 12:17 am

    Hmmmmm.

    Since Harper’s Bizarre said “Anything Goes” I guess that means for your comment, too.

    I mean, I’m not gonna argue with Mel Brooks. As for Jerry Lucas, who could forget his jump shot?

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 28, 2016 at 8:08 pm

Carrie Fisher burned herself out and died relatively young as a result Also, she did have the problem of peeking early in her career.

Worry01 on December 28, 2016 at 9:13 am

I was surprised that feminists weren’t upset with the brass bikini or the DOG COLLAR and chains on the Princess.

I then learned that degrading nakedness is empowerment. Ha! No.

ann on December 28, 2016 at 10:25 am

I was surprised by how old she looked for 60. So sad, I feel for her Mother.

Marianne on December 28, 2016 at 12:09 pm

RIP daughter of Padme’and Darth.

Yes, in real life she was more like her father.

Panhandle on December 28, 2016 at 1:31 pm

Wow, she was only 60 when she passed? I remember when I saw “The Force Awakens” last year, I thought she was in her early 70s.

R.I.P. Princess…

Alan on December 28, 2016 at 4:39 pm

She was okay in Star Wars but let fame and fortune get to her head. It really makes me wander how Eddie Fischer and Debbie Reynolds raised her.

Star Wars was good but not great. Jim Caviezel was way better as well as other movies.

When we find out how other galaxies live, this movie will be a sham.

Confederate on December 28, 2016 at 6:37 pm

Now her mom is dead. The death of a child is a terrible thing for a parent to bear, no matter how old.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on December 28, 2016 at 9:08 pm

Yeah, Debbie Reynolds has died as well. I had a hunch that that might happen, due to the shock. Hope that she’s re-united w/ her daughter – it’s awful that she had to go through this experience

Infidel on December 28, 2016 at 9:38 pm

Unless Carrie Fisher made her peace with G_d Almighty, she will neither rest or have peace. I hated to see her pass on, but ………

William on December 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    That was an intolerant, heartless, stupid thing to say. You think G-d won’t take into consideration the environment that poor woman grew up in, where any religion, except Islam, is, at best, a subject for ridicule?

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 29, 2016 at 9:23 am

      G_d Almighty lays out His plan for those to get to heaven.
      But besides that, why would He take someone home to be with Him while they totally reject His existence? If he took environment and religion into consideration, then Buddhist, Shinto, Wiccan and the like would be ok. As far as they publicly present themselves.
      They Bible tells how G_d deals with people. In life and death.

      William on December 29, 2016 at 5:04 pm

The fact of Ms. Reynolds’ dying the day after her daughter, is one of those matters of timing that are eerie in one way or another. One ironic coincidence of timing occurred over Christmas Day when ex-Wham! frontman and then solo artist George Michael (who could be seen as another symbol of the debasement of Western culture, with material like “I Want Your Sex”) died, from heart failure at his home in England at age 53 – seven years and one day after same-named U.S. sportscaster (and ex-radio disc jockey) George Michael, whose syndicated “Sports Machine” was a forerunner to ESPN’s “Sports Center,” passed away.

ConcernedPatriot on December 28, 2016 at 10:14 pm

    I’ve heard that death goes in threes. First I heard Carrie’s problem then I heard George Michael’s problem and I was wondering who would be number three. Knowing Debbie Reynolds was very elderly, she was a good candidate.

    Darrellhicks450@ on December 29, 2016 at 12:25 am

Debbie Reynolds dying like two days or so (or less) after her daughter is not a meaningless coincidence. It broke her and she died as a consequence. She did not want to outlive her daughter, and so she died.

I can’t believe that Carrie Fischer was already 60, I wouldn’t say it’s young, not old, but not young. I mean like Debbie I remember her from Star Wars when we were kids (Debbie and I are about the same age), and she was just a youngster of course, 21 when Star Wars came out. How could she be 60?!!! Where does the time go? I can’t believe people born in 1990 are already 26, doesn’t seem possible. Debbie is right, there is no time to waste.

Lawrence on December 29, 2016 at 3:12 am

‘Daughter, dear daughter,’ old Lucretius cries,
‘That life was mine which thou hast here deprived.
If in the child the father’s image lies,
Where shall I live now Lucrece is unlived?
Thou wast not to this end from me derived.
If children predecease progenitors,
We are their offspring, and they none of ours.

‘Poor broken glass, I often did behold
In thy sweet semblance my old age new born;
But now that fresh fair mirror, dim and old,
Shows me a bare-boned death by time out-worn:
O, from thy cheeks my image thou hast torn,
And shivered all the beauty of my glass,
That I no more can see what once I was!

William Shakespeare, The Rape of Lucrece

I thought of poor Debbie Reynolds, and how hard it must be to lose a child when you’re that old, even before I checked the Internet news page and found out that she had died, killed by the death of her daughter. Carrie Fisher’s death didn’t bother me that much. Debbie Reynolds’s death made me want, not to cry, but to vomit.My heart goes out to her surviving family, and may she and her daughter both rest in peace.

I remember Carrie Fisher, as Princess Leia, in the first STAR WARS film, before the drugs and the nervous breakdowns and the love affairs and the illegitimate daughter. I did a paper, for a film course at college, on the reasons for the success of the first STAR WARS film. I remeber reading an interview that she did, I think for The New York Times, in which she didn’t talk about drugs or bipolar disorder or her illegitimate daughter, she talked about playing Princess Leia. She was so young, so talented, so beautiful. What a wasted life.

Miranda Rose Smith on December 29, 2016 at 5:00 am

I’d agree there was nothing coincidental in the timing of the successive deaths of Ms. Fisher and Ms. Reynolds; in the latter case, though the medical cause of her death was a stroke, some have suggested the real cause, as ‘Lawrence’ hinted, was a broken heart over the former’s. I simply said the timing was eerie, no coincidence about it. Such a phenomenon (of one relative dying almost immediately after the other) is far more common than people think, especially after they reach a certain age.

But the two different George Michaels, seven years (and one day) apart – now that’s another kettle o’ fish . . .

ConcernedPatriot on December 29, 2016 at 8:21 am

I know that I said that I’d see you guys at the beginning of the year but this post bears commenting. I’ve been a Star Wars fan since 1977 when as a little boy I went to see my first movie with the family. I thought that Princess Leia was very was a good character and for an 8 year old at the time she added excitement to the story. By the time Return of the Jedi came I found that she was very pretty and unlike Steve Martin I’m not ashamed to say it. The feminazi can go take a long hike off a short cliff for how they treated him about his tweet. And speaking of friends. If you have any or relatives that are on drugs please do what you can to get them help. Ms. Fisher had a well documented problem with drug use and it took it’s toll on her body and mind. She looked 10 years older than her 60 years at the time of her death. Drugs do you no good as I had an uncle die young because he couldn’t shake a cocaine habit. It is also said that her mother Debbie Reynolds also died not long after. She was a great star in her on right and I still have the VHS tape with her and the fabulous Gene Kelly and Don O’Connor. Back to her daughter. Ms. Fisher proved that even if you’re born with a silver spoon (in her case being acting royalty) what you do with your life is your choice. Those choices have lasting consequences and if you choose to do drugs it could ruin your life. It can also have an affect on those that you leave behind. In this case Fisher’s daughter and her brother. I do wish her God speed and that she finally rests in peace along with her mother.

Ken B on December 30, 2016 at 9:41 am

I thought Carrie looked pretty good for 60. I’m almost 66, and my friends and I are all showing the nicks and dings of life – whether we indulged in various chemicals or not.

In addition to the barely-disguised tell-all novels, Ms. Fisher also worked as a ‘script doctor’. She was more than her addiction battles, her mental health issues, or her more lurid episodes. Consider that at least some of the sexual escapades were manifestations of her emotional instability.

LindaF on January 3, 2017 at 1:18 pm

Actually Debbie, in “Return of the Jedi”, where Leia is Jaba’s “slave”, Leia has allowed herself to be captured in order to help free Han Solo.

Leia is never actually a slave nor a damsel in distress, she’s “undercover”.

You might want to rethink that part of your blog post.

FisherKing on January 9, 2017 at 1:42 am

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