October 2, 2017, - 10:26 pm

Stephen Paddock: Did Vegas Shooter Do It For ISIS, Islam? Don’t Be So Quick to Dismiss

By Debbie Schlussel

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There is absolutely no evidence ruling out that Las Vegas mass murderer Stephen Paddock was working for ISIS. Despite that, and barely any investigation so far, the FBI Special Agent In Charge for Las Vegas quickly ruled out “any” connection to terrorist groups. That’s no surprise. That’s par for the course for the agency. Don’t be as quick to rule it out. And even if there is no ISIS connection, it’s hard to argue that Sunday’s attack on a country music festival wasn’t inspired by ISIS and/or Islam.



I wish I could say I “watched in amazement” as Las Vegas FBI Special Agent in Charge Aaron Rouse staunchly ruled out any connection between shooter Paddock and terrorist groups, just hours after the attack. But I wasn’t surprised at all. I expected it. This is what the FBI does, especially when there is or could be a connection to Islamic terrorism. The FBI has no idea. And probably never will. So far, there is no way to rule in OR out that Paddock may have joined ISIS.

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The FBI is famous for NOT figuring things out. They never found D. B. Cooper or figured out who he really was. And they never found Jimmy Hoffa’s body or who kidnapped and likely killed him, despite spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to repeatedly dig up several Michigan properties over the decades. The FBI’s most proud “accomplishment”–the discovery of the Unabomber’s identity–wasn’t even an accomplishment or discovery at all. After years, Ted Kaczynski was turned in by his own brother . . . for the reward money. The FBI would never have discovered the guy but for that fact.

There’s a reason why I call the organization, “Famous But Incompetent.” It fits to a “T.”

The FBI is a reactive organization that rarely foils terrorists ahead of time (which is why they set up random Muslims and others to think they are setting off bombs and then arrest them). And the organization is so politically correct when it comes to Islam, the denial is reflexive. This morning, Rouse said it was “absolutely false” that Paddock converted to Islam and was connected to ISIS. How does he know for sure, when we know there is no way his agency had already gone through all of Paddock’s texts, phone calls, e-mails, etc.

The FBI is reflexive in its empty denials, and this affects investigations and costs lives. Agents could have discovered and stopped the 1993 World Trade Center attacks if they paid attention to visitors and communications to and from El-Sayyid Nosair, the assassin of Rabbi Meir Kahane, but they ignored that. FBI Agent Harry Samit repeatedly begged his superiors to allow him to examine the hard drive of Zaccarias Moussaoui and to engage in other law enforcement techniques which would have uncovered the 9/11 attacks. The FBI repeatedly told him no. The same thing happened with FBI Agents Robert Wright and John Vincent, who repeatedly questioned why the agency and the Bush Justice Department allowed known HAMAS terrorists to walk America’s streets and continue to fundraise for HAMAS terrorist attacks.

The FBI telling us something isn’t, is the surest sign that the opposite is true.

Yes, ISIS claimed responsibility, which the group always does. And if Paddock had joined the group, ISIS might have produced some video or communications with Paddock pledging his allegiance. It released no such stuff. But these days, terrorist groups are more careful. And we don’t know whether or not Paddock was a Muslim who joined ISIS.

What we do know is strange and doesn’t pass the smell test. Why would a retired 64-year-old retired accountant who lived in a fancy, posh retirement community and who owned apartment buildings and played big-stakes tables at casinos engage in a terrorist attack? It’s not likely. He was a multi-millionaire real estate developer, according to his brother (as reported by NBC’s Pete Williams and ABC’s Brian Ross), who was a partner in some buildings with him. He also owned his own plane and made a lot of money in the stock market and through gambling. His reported high-stakes gambling of tens of thousands of dollars is nothing if he is truly a multi-millionaire. He was living the life in Vegas with his Filipino girlfriend and his millions. That he “just snapped” is not believable. His attack took planning and deliberation. Multi-millionaires in their 60s don’t just one day decide to become terrorists. And multi-millionaires with no mental health history don’t just snap at age 64. No. But they might plan a terrorist attack if they believed it was for a “noble” cause like the moongod cult’s allah and jihad. That’s the most likely explanation, evidence or not.

Neighbors say Paddock and his girlfriend were “gone” for six months, last year. Where did they go? With whom did they meet? You can’t rule out that maybe they met with jihadists or learned about the precepts of Islam during that trip. I’ll bet you the FBI has no idea where Paddock and his consort were for those six months, just as they still don’t know where the San Bernardino terorists, Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik, were for 20 to 30 minutes between their terrorist attacks and their trip to the 72 virgins in December 2015.

Paddock’s attack took a lot of advance work and planning. He used automatic weapons, which are not legally available to non-military civilians like him. He had to buy them from somewhere and someone. And he reportedly had 23 of them in his hotel room. He bought the ammunition–a lot of it (thousands of bullets)–and that took time and effort, including to transport it and the 23 guns to his hotel room (which he reportedly went to great effort to hide from housekeeping and hotel officials). He had to know about the country music festival and its set-up, that there would be tens of thousands of people there, ripe for the shooting like fish in a barrel. And he had to know which number rooms at the Mandalay Bay Hotel faced the concert area, either consulting hotel floor plans or someone at the hotel who assured he got the specific suite of rooms he occupied on the 32nd floor with several windows facing the concert, with the ability to shoot down on the concertgoers. All of this takes planning–calculated, deliberate planning ahead of time. This is something that was well thought out, not the work of someone who “just snapped.”

And the Al-Qaeda handbook instructed operatives to claim mental illness and recruit the mentally ill in order to camouflage their terrorist attacks as nothing more than a crazy person to whom we should pay little attention. The Detroit terrorist cell, tied to Bin Laden, took videos of Vegas hotels and released plans to attack some of its hotels. So this attack would jibe with those plans.

Yes, like you I saw the story about Paddock’s father, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock, being a bank robber on the FBI’s Most Wanted List and being called a psychopath because he tried to run over an agent. And, yes, often mental illness is inherited . . . as is the propensity to crime. You could argue the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Still, I don’t buy that this was just that simple. That it wasn’t something more. Since the FBI’s already decided (along with the mainstream media), they won’t be eager to divulge anything that disproves their theory. But there is no evidence Paddock was mentally ill. No evidence he was “just crazy” and every indication he was crazy like a fox. We also know he wasn’t religious in any way. Those who don’t believe in anything–like Stephen Paddock, who had no religious or political beliefs, according to his brother–are easy targets for Muslim proselytizers and terrorist recruiters.

Even if there ends up to be no discernible contact by Stephen Paddock with jihadists, doesn’t mean he wasn’t inspired by them and their attacks to perpetrate this attack. In fact, it’s safe to say that he was inspired by their attacks. This has all the hallmarks and the same M.O.

Just because you don’t see any documentation on Google or social media that Stephen Paddock was a believer in jihad, doesn’t mean anything. We don’t live in CSI or NCIS, where there’s strong, definite evidence of everything. That’s just on TV.

Yes, there is nothing yet we know of that points to Islam. But nothing that points against it, either.

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One other thing: I’ve heard many in law enforcement say this was a “soft target” and we can’t easily uncover or prevent such attacks. I disagree.

The failure to be on the lookout for snipers and shooters in tall buildings is a failure not just of imagination, but also a failure to recognize recent history. Remember that guy named John F. Kennedy? Remember where the shots came from that assassinated him? From a tall building. Even if you are a conspiracy theorist who believes there was a second shooter, the bullets in JFK’s body came from high above in Dealey Plaza’s Book Depository. In 1966, Marine sharpshooter Charles Whitman shot and killed 15 people and wounded 31 others when he took them out from a University of Texas at Austin observation deck atop a tower. Whenever the President travels anywhere, the Secret Service has snipers positioned atop some buildings and makes sure nobody else is atop other buildings.

Whenever there is a large gathering of people outside amid several buildings, events like what happened in Vegas, last night can happen elsewhere. Security teams should take this into account and be on the lookout. What happened in Vegas, doesn’t always stay in Vegas.

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We all trust this agency that concluded,even before interviewing key witnesses, that Hillary was innocent from any wrongdoings by keeping classified information on her private server. We also should take seriously any claims by the agency that still is looking for a motive in Orlando nightclub shooting.

Moishe on October 2, 2017 at 11:57 pm

Don’t worry, Debbie, not only did I not discount it, but almost all the thoughts that you expressed about this were the same ones I had when I woke up and turned on my computer to see this story.

That, and a MetroCard with $2.75 on it will get me on the subway. There isn’t much of a market for wisdom and truth these days. This, Debbie’s latest article, as well all her good work for the past quarter century or so, pretty much proves that point.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 12:34 am

Its ok to confess that sometimes white race can commit act of terror.
#whitesupremacy

Jim on October 3, 2017 at 4:02 am

Even if there were no ISIS involvement (directly or indirectly), there is always a similarity with the shooter of Congressman Steve Scalise, James Hodgkinson – an alt-leftist who was a Bernie Sanders supporter and who religiously watched MSNBC and their collection of left-wing hacks and hags (and took the word of the Commie front group SPLC without question). But that an attack like this takes huge amounts of planning, goes without saying.

Also, many on the Left have utter contempt for both country music and their fans (whom they look down on as “voting Republican”), and suggested that, as those who were shot were at a country music festival, those 59 (as of last count) victims “deserved” it. (The only “country” act that passes the smell test with these leftists is The Dixie Chicks, especially the far-left Natalie Maines.) You have to wonder if such snobbish elitists who hate, hate, hate (with all due respect to the insufferable Taylor Swift) those in “flyover territory” had something to do with inspiring Paddock, if one were to rule out the ISIS and/or al Qaeda angle. But as for such contempt – these are the same people who would pounce on you if you dared suggest that if a shootout occurred at a rap concert, the victims deserved it because, after all, rap music listeners and fans largely vote Democrat as a bloc.

And here’s one example of why we bit a bullet (sorry about that) in last year’s election, with Trump being President: His staff’s saying this is not the time to inject politics into this tragedy. By contrast, Hillary would have immediately called for the total disarming of law-abiding citizens (so that only violent criminals, BLM and Antifa would have them) in the wake of all this. Remember Obama’s reaction to Sandy Hook, folks? Or to the Gabby Giffords shooting?

Concerned Patriot on October 3, 2017 at 6:29 am

I saw screenshots from antifa Australia congratulating him on taking out “Trumpsters” so I am willing to consider that he may have been an antifa activist, even if he was not an active member. Waiting to see what turns up.

mindy1 on October 3, 2017 at 7:03 am

Thank you Debbie for writing what I think at this time. No one could rule out that he was associated with a terrorist group. This doesn’t pass the smell test. This took a lot of planning so he just didn’t snap. ISIS’s claims that someone was a member of their organization or were turned to a Jihadist are usually true.

And why should we trust the FBI (Fumble Butts Incorporated) which was run by that corrupt and vile James Comey for all those years? Comey is the face of the FBI – a deep state political organization with a lot of power.

Concerned Citizen on October 3, 2017 at 9:05 am

“One other thing: I’ve heard many in law enforcement say this was a “soft target” and we can’t easily uncover or prevent such attacks. I disagree.”

Well, perhaps but there are a LOT of tall buildings in this country. And many in large cities. And large cities have sidewalks which, while they don’t offer the numerous targets Vegas’ venue did, do offer fish in a barrel. The Texas University shooter figured that out…

We have a fractured, angry and disillusioned society. This is the result. And those factors CAN drive someone who seems sane into the arms of an insane religion.

Roger on October 3, 2017 at 9:19 am

Great article with a historical account of incompetence and lying by the FBI, and all the agencies within the DOJ. The federal government is rife with mendacity. We, the public, can no longer rely on the government or the media to be truthful. Everything is political and/or corrupt.
This act took a lot of planning, as Debbie pointed out, and connections to buy these munitions and firearms. This was not the act of a person who “snapped.” All this planning occurred under the radar of the ATF, FBI, etc. Try and buy one automatic weapon!
Yes, something’s rotten in Las Vegas.
What is interesting is that within 12 hours the FBI can say with no investigation, ISIS had no involvement, but after nine months with no evidence they can’t say there was no Trump-Russia collusion

unholyone on October 3, 2017 at 9:26 am

Off topic, but I wish all the religious Jews on this website a happy, healthy, kosher Succot, Simchat Torah and Shemini Atzeret.

Miranda Rose Smith on October 3, 2017 at 9:47 am

    @ MIRANDA ROSE SMITH:

    Thank you for posting that information.

    Since I’m not Jewish, if it were not for your post(s), I wouldn’t know about these events.

    John Robert Mallernee on October 3, 2017 at 4:50 pm

Unholyone puts a firm and accurate punctuation on Debbie’s article. We have a government, including unfortunately many in law enforcement, but I’m talking mostly upper echelons, not cop on the beat types, who are working against the civil society.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Yes, exactly. Why would “protestors” be allowed to wear masks, helmets, and hoodies to conceal their identity? Why would they be allowed to carry knapsacks concealing weapons, bottles, rocks, etc.? Why would they be allowed close to opposing protestors? Why would the cops stand down and allow it to happen? Why, when there are $Thousands$ damage, looting, and fires, are only one or two people being arrested? Interesting questions.
    You’re right. These are orders from the top (usually politicians), not the attitude of the ordinary law enforcement officer who would want to stop this behavior.

    unholyone on October 3, 2017 at 10:18 am

Annnnnnnnnnd, meanwhile, NOTHING in the DNC run news media about the Tennessee church shooting six days ago. Guy killed almost as many people as Dylann Roof did, but . . .

co-qui, co-qui, co-qui, . . .

doesn’t fit the DNC’s narrative. The headlines about “scrambling to find a motive” for the Vegas attack, etc., plus the Democrat good, Republican bad crap being spread all over the place is horrible. Jimmy Kimmel and Lena Dunham??!???!!! I have to see THEM and their commentary in the headlines?!??!???!!!!??!??!!!!?

WHO THE HELL ARE THEY???

I’m going to tell you all right now, but most of you already know this.

THIS, . . . the Las Vegas attack, mark it down, mark down that date, because ALL OF YOU, with LEGAL, LICENSED, REGISTERED guns of ANY type, are going to remember the day of the Vegas attack as The Day They Took The Guns Away.

Because THIS time, the guns ARE going to FORCIBLY be taken from y’all. No, not today, or tomorrow, but THIS is the watershed moment. Unholyone said something is rotten in Vegas. Yup, and his name is HARRY REID.

I’m not saying he bought and paid for this, of course not, but the Democrat good, Republican bad narrative and politics WILL STAND in America. And of course, what’s left of America will as a result, fall. And then, . . .

Smoke rising from the land, tens of millions dead, tens of millions more dying, radiation spreading, no electricity, no running water, and people stabbing each other at the corner store to get the last candy bar.

Coming to a neighborhood near YOU.

And they said “that could never happen here.”

Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, . . .

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 10:23 am

    Yes Alfredo. While I agree with Debbie that the Muslim connection can’t be ruled out, I have to also acknowledge that the antifa angle is also a possibility. Actually, I don’t see a distinction between the two, both being dependent upon aiding and abetting and coverup by leftist/globalist entities, including Deep State, MSM, etc.

    But it’s this leftist/globalist connection that’s had me intrigued since the news of the shooting broke. The status quo of the previous almost three year period (campaign, presidency, resistance, and obstruction) is significant and overrides most everything else this country’s experienced—it cancels out the good and exacerbates the evil.

    Your insistence that this is ‘the day they took the guns away’ mirrors my fears about the massacre. While only one possible explanation, when I consider ALL of the issues surrounding the shooting (planning, weapons acquisition, logistics, motivation, likely erroneous claims of mental disease, etc.) I can’t dismiss my original feelings that this tragedy is the latest step in the progression of tactics, funding and facilitation by none other than Soros & Co.

    This progression is easy to follow. Trump announces his run, the MSM and Dems laugh it off. He gets the GOP nomination, mild concern builds, the MSM and Dems get slightly more serious. His rising poll #’s, election win, inauguration, etc. have all been steps in this progression which resulted in a ramping up of obstruction and violence. We know Soros was responsible for a previous escalation, Charlottesville, so why should it be inconceivable that Las Vegas was his doing as well. The most recent shooting’s orchestration would be a logical outgrowth of globalist frustrations with Trump’s ascendancy and the inability to put a final stranglehold on his administration. In the limited minds of the left, this one event would be able to accomplish both the undoing of our second ammendment rights AND the Trump presidency (it’s in no way a smart plan—only a sinister one), and would presumably return the ball to the globalist’ court.

    YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm

      “. . . facilitation by none other than Soros & Co.”

      That’s a BIG 10-4.

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 7, 2017 at 6:30 pm

Guys that want to learn how to fly planes, but not land them. Adam Lanza (Connecticut school shooter), on the radar, just “fell through the cracks,” etc., etc., etc., . . .

Ever notice how so many things just fall through the cracks on the way to our downfall? Something’s rotten alright, and not just in Vegas.

U(ndermining)
S(anity)
A(lways)

All these self hating Americans, and as I peruse the news, hey, peruse the news, I could be a regular Edgar Allen Schmoe, LOL!!! Gun owner Ashton Kutcher, yeah, I want to know what Ashton Kutcher has to say about ANYTHING, right, well, he’s all over the place now with HIS commentary.

Maybe Kim Kardashian can give her commentary, after all, she’s measured the caliber of a lot of large weapons in her time, yeah, that’s the ticket, we’ll let HER regulate firearms.

All self-hating Americans, if ANY of you are paying any attention to Debbie’s web site, and we KNOW you DO.

REQUIRED WATCHING AND LISTENING.

Billy Joel’s We Didn’t Start The Fire.

That’s right, “it’s been always burnin’ since the world’s been turnin’,” but that’s okay, let’s burn down the United States anyway, RIGHT, that’s your solution?

Forget national security, safe streets, highways and byways, forget the economy, we need to make PROGRESS, let’s get that LGBTQXYZ Sharia Law, Black Lives Matter More Than All Others Social Justice Agenda nailed firmly in place.

TAKE THE GUNS!!!

No solution for what happens afterward, when we’re invaded, overthrown, and bad guys rule the streets and suburbs, ONLY the bad guys.

If the United States would only be NICER, the Iranians, North Koreans, all who oppose us wouldn’t be scared of The Big Bully anymore, and they’ll come around, you watch, they’ll come around.

I’ve been hearing that with my two pretty substantial elephantine ears since about 1964, or ’65.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 11:06 am

    “Maybe Kim Kardashian can give her commentary, after all, she’s measured the caliber of a lot of large weapons in her time…”

    I assume the euphemism is intentional. >>covers mouth<<

    YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 3:37 pm

I agree. Paddock planned his operation. He was not some nutty random shooter on a street corner. It is also true that his actions were probably inspired by the acts of Islamic Terror groups, even if he did not have a direct connection with them. The FBI has become lazy and greatly politicized, which in turn has led to a degradation of its ability to investigate criminal activity.

Worry on October 3, 2017 at 12:54 pm

Excellent article. I have zero confidence in the FBI – they will
use the lone-wolf BS and use heavy spin on gun violence.

NancyB on October 3, 2017 at 1:21 pm

That’s right, NancyB, those headlines are already firmly in place.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 2:25 pm

Debbie, report out now is that shooter sent $ 100,000 to Philippines( girlfriend’s home country) – Remember Ca. State Senator Leeland Yee – caught in deal buying military arms and missiles in the Philippines?? is there a big black market weapons sale there??

bobby99 on October 3, 2017 at 3:04 pm

F(reakin’)
B(lew)
I(t)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 3:34 pm

F(ear)
B(eing)
I(nculcated)

U(ltimately)
S(laves)
A(ll)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 4:16 pm

Disgusted listening to conservatives having sympathy for this man. Scared and full of bigotry by refusing to call him a terrorist. Oh he’s must be mentally ill. blah blah blah. Its sickening.
The treatment of the Puerto Ricans is a putrid display of American conservative bigotry. And you people are proud of yourselves? Absolutley disgusting. People see you for what you people are. YUCK!

DisgustedAtYouPeople on October 3, 2017 at 4:22 pm

    “Disgusted listening to conservatives having sympathy for this man.”

    WTF? Huh, us Conservatives displaying sympathy for Mr. Paddock? Show me some citation either during the course of the article-thesis writing, and/or within the comment sections of ANY of the arguers showing sympathy for this lunatic monster of him targeting innocent people who meant no degree of harm towards the rest of human-nature?

    And speaking of which, I will define the scientific-method word of “sympathy”, where you re-defined the word.

    *Sympathy-> in an agreement in feeling, accord and compassion.

    “Sacred and full of bigotry by refusing to call him a terrorist. Oh he’s must be mentally ill.”

    “Facepalm”, for starters partner, try and to incentivize on your grammar, that should’ve been, “Oh he must be mentally ill”. To refute your position, first, where did either Ms. Schlussel or any of us commenting made the conclusion that he was mentally ill? Even the author of this article disputes such a falsifiable claim of him being mentally incapacitated, purely BS. And secondly, if this was done under a terrorist act, then there had to be some mechanism of motivation under the guise of a viewpoint to inflict violent and intimidation tactics onto the public.

    And I’ll this time define the word terrorist/terrorism:

    *Terrorism-> to use intentional and indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror or fear in order to achieve a political, religious, ideological or philosophical causation. It’s used in such regard primarily to refer to violence in antithesis peacetime targets or in war against non-combatants, etc.

    If you conjecture that Mr. Paddock was some terrorist, I would like to see some citation evidence of him committing his mass-shooting under the guise of a viewpoint and being correlated with any entity-group that’s known for terrorist acts!

    Sean R. on October 3, 2017 at 5:16 pm

      Nice, SeanR. I was scratching my head over that, and all I could think of was wiseass remarks, so I decided to stay shut. Excellent post, thank you.

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 7:33 pm

        You’re quite welcome Alfredo buddy ole pal, and it’s been a while since I’ve added my two cents on Ms. Schlussel’s blog-site, but that commentator needed to be called out on his or her stupidity and asinine comment.

        Sean R. on October 3, 2017 at 10:15 pm

          And I’m glad you did. Some of the more valuable regulars don’t seem to be around as much. I understand, because sometimes life gets in the way, as it has, and may yet do so with me again.

          Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 11:01 pm

      Yes SeanR. Excellent rebuttal to that dope Disgusted’s stupid post. As a Conservative I’m appalled at the deliberate violence perpetrated by that waste of humanity Paddock. For anyone to think otherwise is not playing with a full deck. Methinks Disgusted got lost on the way to Media Matters or the Huff and Puffington Post.

      Ken B on October 4, 2017 at 11:13 am

    You know nothing about the treatment of the Puerto Ricans. Even a lefty like Geraldo Rivera called the piling on “fake news.” How do you like that, bot?

    Do you believe this? I’m talking to a bot, which cannot see, hear, speak, or think.

    D(umb)
    A(ss)
    Y(outhful)
    P(othead)

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 5, 2017 at 10:06 pm

Sorry folks, but this is a sensitive topic with me, so my post is going to be a long one. While “Famous But Incompetent” is certainly a catchy description of the acronym for the FBI, that description gives far more benefit of the doubt to the organization than the facts warrant. “Famous But Insidious” is probably more accurate.

Incompetence indicates that members of the FBI don’t know what they’re doing, make blunders, and lack the ability to perform their jobs effectively. Although that at first might seem to be the case, when you look deeper into some of the FBI’s cases you will actually find that the organization has many outstanding and dedicated FBI agents, but that those agents were too often thwarted in their efforts to do their jobs or the evidence they obtained was deliberately buried or even destroyed. Because the FBI has a pattern of doing this in many high-profile cases and because the usual result of this is that the FBI “leaders” responsible for “botching” a case are promoted, calling the FBI “insidious” seems more accurate than calling it “incompetent.”

Let’s take a trip down memory lane.

For years, J. Edgar Hoover, the most famous FBI boss, claimed that there was no such thing as “organized crime” or a “national syndicate.” Meanwhile, Hoover vigorously and successfully went after criminals involved in much smaller crimes and made himself famous for doing so. But then, something happened by accident that forced Hoover to recognize the truth that he knew all along. In November 1957, the local and state police saw some odd goings on in Apalachin, New York. They noted a large number of expensive cars arriving in a small town that never say such activity before. After setting up some roadblocks, they noted that many of those arriving suddenly fled as though they were guilty of something. So the police decided to raid the event. The event was held at the home of Joe “the Barber” Barbara and some 60 or more men dressed in fine clothes, but many with criminal records were rounded up. It turned out that the meeting was organized by Vito Genovese, and the members of the syndicate came from all across the U.S. and as far away as Italy and Cuba. But ever after Hoover and the FBI had to officially recognize the existence of organized crime, they did little to interfere. The FBI’s failure then could only have been a deliberate decision at the top.

Moving right along, consider the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Weeks before the JFK assassination, the FBI’s Chicago office received a hot tip that men were planning to murder the President. The plot didn’t involve Dallas, but rather, involved the city of Chicago, in which FBI agents learned of a plan to use snipers with high-powered rifles positioned along the President’s parade route to the Army-Air Force football game scheduled for November 2, 1963. Shortly afterward, and no later than November 12, 1963, the FBI learned of yet another plot to murder JFK through an FBI informant. William T. Sommersett, who was given the FBI code name “T-2” made a secret recording of his conversation with Joseph Adams Milteer on November 9, 1963. Milteer was affiliated with the notoriously violent Dixie Klan faction of the Ku Klux Klan and other racist and anti-Semitic organizations. Milteer described a plot that was “in the working” to assassinate the President “from an office building with a high-powered rifle” that could be “disassemble[d],” and added that the authorities “will pick up somebody within hours afterward . . . just to throw the public off” — a scenario strikingly similar to the subsequent one in Dallas, where Oswald was identified and taken to police within hours of the Dallas assassination. After the President’s assassination, Sommersett asked Milteer whether he was guessing regarding the plot and Milteer replied, “I don’t do any guessing.” Milteer also said that he was in Dallas on November 22, 1963. Notably, the Chicago plot to murder JFK was not thwarted by the FBI, but rather, by local police. The President’s November 2, 1963 Chicago motorcade was canceled thanks to information from Chicago Police Lieutenant Berkeley Moyland and a mysterious informant named “Lee.” (Researchers have speculated that the informant named “Lee” could have been Lee Harvey Oswald.)

Equally as important as the FBI’s failure to take action to protect JFK, the FBI was the first to make the claim that Oswald was JFK’s assassin—without performing any investigation whatsoever. And to make matters still worse, they permitted and raised no questions whatsoever about the immediate destruction of evidence that took place following the murder. JFK’s limo was immediately cleaned, the windshield immediately destroyed, and any other forensic evidence was destroyed with great urgency, precision, and completeness. A decision had obviously been made that the crime was going to be pinned on Oswald without any investigation. Within hours of Oswald’s death at the hands of Jack Ruby (who, incidentally both knew each other and were both FBI informants), Assistant Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach sent a memo to Bill Moyers of the newly installed Johnson administration. The memo said: “The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.” Note that Katzenbach doesn’t say anything about investigating the murder, finding out the truth, or collecting evidence. It says just the opposite. Again, a deliberate. but insidious, decision was made. No incompetence there.

Moving ahead to the 911 crimes, the FBI’s Radical Fundamentalist Unit (RFU) obtained plenty of information indicating that a terrorist plot was in play. The entire 911 plot could have been uncovered and stopped had the FBI moved forward to investigate Zacarias Moussaouis, one of the participants in the plan. But, “thanks” to the FBI, deliberate decisions were made to prevent that from happening. RFU chief Dave Frasca stops the Minneapolis office from pursuing a criminal warrant. When French authorities say that Moussaoui is connected to the Chechen rebels, RFU agent Mike Maltbie stops the FBI Minneapolis office from informing the Justice Department’s Criminal Division about the case. When the FBI’s RFU finds evidence indicating that bin Laden is sending pilots to the US for training, all FBI agents that were following up were stopped in their tracks on RFU’s order. I could go on and on, but it only gets worse for the FBI. What you see in the 911 crimes is not incompetence, but deliberate interference by those in authority and those in a position to stop the 911 crimes from happening. If anything, the RFU’s consistent and relentless efforts to do everything in their power to ensure that no interference would take place indicates that Frasca and Maltbie were really moles working from within the FBI to aid America’s enemies. You might be wondering what happened to Frasca and Maltie. Surely they must have been disciplined or fired for their deliberate failure to do their jobs and to deliberately interfere with the loyal and dedicated FBI agents who were doing their jobs? But no. Frasci and Maltie were promoted.

Or, consider the case of Omar Mateen and his mass murder in Orlando in June 2016. Mateen publicly announced that he committed his murders “for ISIS.” But the FBI investigated Mateen for about a year before the mass murder and declared that he wasn’t a threat to anybody. The FBI even got a tip from Lotus Gunworks in May, a month before murders. Lotus, which was less than 20 miles away from Mateen’s home, told the FBI that a man came into their store trying to buy serious body armor and some heavy rounds of ammunition. Lotus reported the incident to the FBI because they thought the man was a potential terrorist, especially when he got on his cell phone and spoke in Arabic or another Middle Eastern language. The normal police procedure, in this case, would be to send over FBI agents to get a detailed description of the man and then to pull some photos from their computer files of potentially matching individuals who lived in the area. Had the FBI done its normal job, the FBI would have followed up on that lead and stopped Mateen from committing his mass murders because Lotus later identified Mateen as the suspicious man that came into their store. After the mass murders, James Comey, who then headed the FBI lied to the public and told them there’s nothing the FBI could have done to stop the murders.

I could go on and on, but I think I’ve proven my case. The FBI has zero credibility and lies to the public on a regular basis.

Incidentally, some 45 minutes before the attack in Las Vegas this Sunday, according to at least one witness, and man and woman, purportedly “Hispanic,” had warned people at the event where the mass murders took place that they were going to be killed. Here’s a clip of one witness being interviewed about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcIJk_EKAI. However, don’t look for the FBI to investigate or follow up on any of such leads.

Ralph Adamo on October 3, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    “But no. Frasci and Maltie were promoted.”

    Right, promoted, as are so many others in charge of promoting the downfall of “this once great republic.”

    Happens in high offices, too. NY Governor Andrew Cuomo, Secretary of HUD during the collapsing housing market, gets promoted to Governor of The Empire State, perhaps president in 2020.

    The Dragon Lady, who has been promoted ceaselessly, despite her life’s work, which has included one shady deal after another, including running The Bimbo Eruptions Unit and bungling health care, after being given this arts and crafts project in order to keep her happy. Since when does the wife of a president get to dictate American health care policy?

    But she was promoted to State Senator, and could still some day become president.

    None other than His Slickness, known for being an insidious gangster as Arkansas Governor, who in 1968 told a 3-star general that he loathed the military, nevertheless becomes Commander In Chief a quarter century later.

    Barack Milhous Hussein Benito Obama, nothing but a wise ass community organizer. He becomes a senator who got his seat after Bobby Rush’s own party threw him under the bus with some dirty dealing by David Axelrod. He does next to nothing as senator, but magically becomes the wunderkind of the American Lefties from the 60’s and gets promoted to president.

    I could go on too, but Mr. Adamo’s point is clearly made in his own words, without my addendum. Anyone still want to tell me there’s no conspiracy to bring down this nation from within?

    Quite simply, there are people who don’t believe in this nation, the way it was founded, the supremacy, prominence and prosperity it has enjoyed. Rather a kinder, gentler United States which is brought down to the level of the rest of the world. How about just raising the rest of the world to a higher level? Nahhhhhh, that’s naive, Alfredo.

    We all know what the Fifth Column is, yes? That’s something else I’ve been literally hearing about for over half a century, with my two very substantial elephantine ears.

    The Fifth Column is firmly entrenched everywhere across the land, in local and state offices, and of course throughout the federal bureaucracy.

    In the immortal words of the Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose, . . .

    “it’s too late to turn back now.”

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 8:44 pm

Yep the FBI puts PR at the front of their agenda whenever public contact is necessary. They did the same thing after 9-11 when Post Offices were hit with anthrax spores. Their word – no way were the anthrax spore mailings in any way connected with radical Islam. Because of their emphasis it took TWO WEEKS for maintenance to stop blowing out various pieces of Postal equipment with air pressure in my facility. Baruch ha Shem, no one contracted anthrax, NO thanks to them.

Tom Umland on October 3, 2017 at 5:04 pm

F(ine)
B(unch)
I(diots)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    F(allacious)

    B(oneheaded)

    I(mbeciles)

    Ken B on October 4, 2017 at 10:07 am

U(nder)
S(imultaneous)
A(ssault)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm

Doesn’t the hotel have their own full-time, in-house security personnel?

Once the shooting began, why did an armed response take so long?

In a life or death emergency, the hotel security weren’t required to wait for the police to arrive, and determining which floor, and which suite(s) the shooting was in should not have taken more than a few minutes.

Even a private citizen could have reacted with their own weapon, and it would have been legal to do so.

Also, with all those Country Western music fans, there must have been a few good ol’ boys with pickup trucks and scoped deer rifles that could have returned fire.

Would a window on the thirty-second floor of the hotel across the street be out of range for the average deer rifle, such as my own Savage 110 bolt-action 30.06 caliber, with the Deerfield 3×9 scope?

Maybe that’s a justifiable reason for private citizens to be able to own and carry the .50 caliber sniper rifle, which can easily shoot that distance accurately.

Of course, no one would have been shot if they’d obeyed the Lord’s commandment to keep the Sabbath day holy, for they wouldn’t have been there.

But, that’s one of the symptoms of moral decay in our society, for many, many years ago, when I was young and growing up in the unapologetic racially segregated Bible Belt, things were different, and folks were more religiously observant.

And while I’m discoursing, I’d never go to one of those concerts, or even watch it on television, because so-called “Country” music is NOT Country!

John Robert Mallernee on October 3, 2017 at 5:13 pm

Islamic State operates in the Philippines.
It’s just emerged that Paddock sent $100,000 to an account there days before the shooting presumably to his girlfriend.
“It was initially thought Paddock had been working with Ms Danley an accomplice but police later said she was out of the country at the time of the attack and cleared her of any involvement.”

Mochizuki Koga on October 3, 2017 at 7:18 pm

Hi Deb and Shannah Tovah.

I agree with your thesis: A connection to ISIS or other terrorist organization cannot be ruled out.

One thing I’d like to address: Paddock did not have “automatic” firearms. Rather, he had semi-automatic firearms (completely legal) with a rig that I call a “slider”.

The slider fits over the pistol grip and trigger. Paired with a vertical grip, the recoil of the firearm resets the trigger and results in a fully automatic fire.

I had the opportunity to fire an AR-15 equipped with one of these. It’s rare that I am afraid to shoot a firearm. Usually, fear has something to do with recoil, bruised palms, bruised shoulders etc. But this thing was a tad bit scary in large part because we were on an indoor range.

An indoor range is a BAD place to have a firearm “get away from you”. That goes double for a fully automatic firearm. Anyway, I was able to get the hang of this thing and fire double-taps with good control and aim. When the group was done, I could hardly walk. The floor was flooded with brass shells. It was like walking on marbles.

I said to the off-duty policeman: “This must have cost you a fortune!” He replied: “That’s why I can only do this once a year.”

Personal stories aside, I haven’t yet seen evidence that Paddock’s firearms were smuggled, or of an illegal variety. The fully automatic fire was accomplished by an accessory which I have described.

There’s no reason to rule out terrorism and/or ISIS. In addition, the logistics of the attack suggest this was planned well in advance. The murderer didn’t “just snap”.

Fortunately, I can afford to be patient to see what we ultimately learn about this.

Sincerely,

There is NO Santa Claus (aka TINSC)

There is NO Santa Claus on October 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Wait a second, heeeeeeere.

    Sliders??!????!!! What exactly does White Castle have to do with this?

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 11:23 pm

      Something about both leaving a bad taste in my mouth, I reckon.

      YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm

Good day dear Debbie!The thoughts and prayers of me Tirdad are with all who were affected by the mass shootings in Las Vegas! All of you and your beautiful families are in my heart. and my heart is sad very sad! Silent Tears! God bless Tirdad.

TIRDAD GHARIB on October 4, 2017 at 7:06 am

This M.O. may show up a lot more due to the advance in personal carry weapons having lasers. It would be very difficult to hold a laser dot at that distance, and worthless anyhow as windage would have the shot off by twenty feet by the time the bullet from a personal carry traveled the distance. I suggest then that country concert goers have their gun racks loaded with good hunting rifles with scopes. That’s the only response of the moment that would have saved lives in this instance. That would have worked. A long distance two way remote car alarm with a laser personal carry as backup is a real good idea then. Hang the transmitter module over the rear view mirror in plain view so people know not to mess with the vehicle and that also gives the transmitting module good distance. At home, hide the transmitter module and put the alarm in silent mode if you wish.

Now having said that, I do advocate laser assisted personal carry. When the shooter is within a few hundred feet, that should work quite handily. That’s because in the old days, it was usually “close encounters”. But these days the target is always some type of crowd and the shooter (statistically by far a muslim, follower of islam, or other islamic influenced person or persons) at some distance and at times under low light conditions causing iron gun sights to be less useful and more dangerous for innocents near by. That’s where the laser comes into its own. Had for example the people in France at the stadium had personal carries with lasers, the moment the shooting started, the shooter would have had a dozen red or green dots on his head, and a moment later no head. Many lives would have been saved.

Under very low light, the laser becomes useless without a built-in tactical white LED, something minimal like the LED on the back of a smart phone in “flashlight” mode. Else all you see is a laser dot.

If you get one of these, the very first thing to do is to turn on and make sure it basically agrees with iron sights. You can tweak when you get to the range.

Also a good idea to carry spare batteries blue-painter’s taped to the inside of the original zippered carry case along with jeweler’s screw drivers for changing the batteries and the tiny allen-wrench for maintaining basic alignment. The laser may sometimes get inadvertently turned on and run the batteries down. Its good to have spares and the alignment tool always handy.

Laser sites cost only $100 to $200 these days. The ability to save lives is priceless.

Phil Lipofsky on October 4, 2017 at 10:40 am

DS is so correct on the jokey FBI (of course I learned of their incompetency from here) and “Famous But Incompetent” is so perfect, I used it in a recent writing of mine and could NEVER come up with a better satire of them if I tried. I LOL’ed at her apt reference of DB Cooper & Jimmy Hoffa because she is so spot-on RE:those cold-cases it is like an inside joke to me.

In my own research, I have found out (sadly) how inept LE and the FBI are in regarding infamous cold cases. My respect for them has fallen over 50% and I regret it but facts are stubborn things (and what made me see the light). My research has shown me LE are bumbling and get so much wrong and contaminate and compromise many crime scenes that if the public knew, they would demand changes YESTERDAY. I don’t say that lightly. The facts showed me the sad truth and I do NOT just study one case…I study hundreds of them…and it is sad how many are effed-up by LE & FBI. If people knew the REAL truth of LE track records they wouldn’t have respect for our LE agencies. The people who get caught are super-stupid or just have luck on their side (like when Ted Bundy was caught in Colorado in the 70’s by a cop…that was luck, luck, luck and speared on by laziness and sloppiness of a degenerating Serial Killer…who managed to escape for more killings, which proves my point…)

I’m with her 100% on this. Because she knows her stuff, fact-checks and doesn’t follow the Zombie-Sheeple crowd…especially RE: ISLAM!

Skunky on October 4, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    That’s not correct, Skunky. The FBI is hot on the trail of DB Cooper, and they even think they know his true identity: Robert Rackstraw. An arrest could happen any day now.
    https://dbcooper.com/2016/12/robert-rackstraw-5-fast-facts/

    Ralph Adamo on October 4, 2017 at 3:14 pm

      Ralph, the FBI gave up last July…I will admit that Rackstraw IS a convincing perp but he wasn’t THE DB Cooper…some of us (and it wasn’t MY find, I must admit…) know lots of stuff RE: “DB” and Hoffa…but our research is given ZERO credibility so no need to go into it but to correct you on Rackstraw (but I admit I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic because you do take that tact…and this is a topic I take seriously so I can’t see clearly here…but for reasons you’re not privy to know I know a bit about the REAL leads…so no judgement on my part. My end point is if a citizen detective can find a credible link to a DB Cooper perp (and this person’s case is very strong…) and the FBI can’t and gives up, well, then, that does say it all. It’s NOT the only case, either…

      Anyway, DB is hard to explain 100% because no one can say they saw him jump out of the plane (it could have been a “Quick Change” maneuver with a “dupe” or the “dupe” died in the fall but the $$ WAS found near the COLUMBIA River in 1980…planted there, BTW…)…

      Let’s just say that the DB Cooper LETTERS have much in common with other infamous, taunting, cold case letters and they match up in many, many ways. I didn’t figure it out on my own because the infamous sketch was a deterrent on my end but I was ephemerally curious last summer because the date, time and locale matched up with my bailiwick of research but I put is aside in lieu of digging in. Oh well, can’t win them all…

      Skunky on October 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm

        Skunky, for the record, I was in my sarcastic mode, especially when I proclaimed “An arrest could happen any day now.” (I should have added a “Thanks for your patience” to the end of my post to cap things off more clearly since, as you know, the unsolved case happened nearly 46 years ago.) And no, I don’t really think Rackstraw’s the guy either.

        Ralph Adamo on October 4, 2017 at 8:43 pm

          Interesting name, Rackstraw.

          I’ve racked a lot of joints in my time, and a fair number of dead bodies. Done a lot of farm work too, racked a lot of trees, pieces of trees, and stuff that probably eventually turned in to straw, LOL!!!

          Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 8:48 pm

          LOL, I should have known Ralph…but just in case my “colleague’s” name DOES get out there (I doubt it…no one gets respect in this game…except the unworthy FBI…) the first name of the person to solve it is Jason. I am not a fan of his but he did do it so I must give credit…even when no one else is…

          BTW, a periphery of the DB Cooper lead is a Michigan cold case by the name of Robert Richard Lepsy…it’s a nice rabbit hole to go down RE: old DB and MI cold cases…

          Skunky on October 4, 2017 at 9:03 pm

“Perhaps I’m being overly conspiratorial, but …”

I’m noticing more and more on these various sites of “the Counter-Jihad” that the civilians of the movement (such as it is) in comments fields (and leadership of the movement often apparently countenancing it) indulge in the type of conspiracy theory that logically is unfalsifiable and is so profoundly distrustful of authority, that the bottom falls out of any discrimination necessary (or possible) for verification of anything (though, incoherently, they continue to behave as though they can in fact sift throught true and false data).

Frank Hesperado on October 4, 2017 at 12:17 pm

So many good posts here especially about the “Forever Being Insipid”. Granted there are genuinely good agents across our great country. It just seems that the upper management couldn’t find their butts in a dark room using both hands. Is it any wonder that the FBI is portrayed in the movies and TV as either being overbearing, clueless or buffoonish. Now as to Paddock. My boss at work listens to NPR and steams MSNBCDNC on his computer. Talk about idiocy. As per usual with the left they wasted no time talking about gun control. Followed by stupid statements from the likes of Hillary Clinton in that the massacre could’ve been worse had Paddock used a silencer. What a dope she is and this woman ran for president twice. Like Debbie and others have said follow the time line and the money. How was he able to set up his snipers nest with LV being one of the most camera filled cities in the country. Where did he and his girlfriend go before the shooting etc. Hopefully all of these questions will be answered but if the FBI is involved expect them to find out who DB Cooper really is first before they figure this one out. Side note a friend of mine at work said that the Feds have come to the conclusion that DB Cooper starred in the first season of Prison Break. Maybe someone should tell the new director…LOL!

Ken B on October 4, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    Great post, KenB, as usual, and you DO have a military background, so you could easily answer my first post on the succeeding article. Funny stuff, too. Yeah, D.B. Cooper, riiiiiiight.

    “Always gonna be a Cosa Nostra, 10, 20, 100, years from now, always gonna be a Cosa Nostra. I, me, I, John Gotti, I said it.”

    Hey, Johnny Boy, howzat woikin’ faw ya, schmuck? How about when the Albanians beat the tar out of the Gambino Family and sent them packing from the neighborhood I’m staying in right now, Astoria, Queens?

    Same with the good ol’ USA, that could never happen here, ehhhhhh? That’s what some of the older, wiser, smarter guys at work told me 40 years ago.

    HOWZAT WOIKIN’ FAW US NOWWWWWWW?

    WAKE UP, AMERICA!!!

    U(nder)
    S(ea)
    A(lready)

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 7:41 pm

      Oh, KenB, one more thing. I have a friend very high up in NYC government, not a public position, however.

      This person has two sons, different fathers. One of the fathers is deceased. They are both very intelligent and talented in much different ways, and with different personalities.

      Here’s a quote from her. Neither of my sons could find their own ass if it wasn’t on their body.

      ROTFLMAO!!!

      Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 8:46 pm

Oh my disgusting god. If this person looked different your Lord and leader would be tweeting 1000s times a day about it. Conserv media just makes excuses. You people are sickening.

DisgustedAtYouPeople on October 4, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    I get it now.

    D(isguised)
    A(s)
    Y(usuf)
    P(apadopoulos)

    is a bot.

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 11:17 pm

      Dumb
      A whole
      Yapping
      Perpetually

      YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 4:42 pm

Once again I am amazed how government officials are able to make broad definitive statements before they have done even two full minutes of investigating.

Just a couple of examples (out of many): the fire at Branch Davidian compound in Waco TX had not be burning for 15 minutes and government officials were assuring everybody that they started the fire themselves.

The dust from the Oklahoma City bombing had not even settled and the FBI assured us that no Middle-Eastern (code for Muslim) had anything to do with it.

Now we are assured that the Las Vegas shooter was not influenced by Islam.

Maybe if the FBI would at least wait a day or two to make these pronouncements I might be fooled into believing them.

Steve G on October 4, 2017 at 7:27 pm

lone wolf my ass. You conservative hacks. Disgusting. You choose your kind words to describe the milky complexion ones. Sickos. He was a terrorist!

DisgustedAtYouPeople on October 4, 2017 at 7:53 pm

What is your problem, DAYP? Did you take another wrong turn at the methadone clinic?

Nobody HERE says he was a lone wolf, and EVERYONE here believes he was a terrorist!!!

Now, go back down the block, and turn LEFT at Shenanigan’s Bar and Girl, go 203 feet to 169 Addiction Lane, 3rd Floor, 2nd door on the right.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 7:58 pm

While it’s easy to make fun of the FBI’s numerous failures, we should never lose sight of the fact that in many of these failures American lives were lost. And, as taxpayers, we’re certainly not getting our $8.5 billion worth from the FBI that they spend each year.

Unfortunately, for all of the FBI’s failures, bungling, and blunders, they too often don’t catch the bad guys in the end like this guy always managed to do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yianfGvzc

Ralph Adamo on October 4, 2017 at 8:57 pm

Yeah, but Joe Mantegna makes a great agent, LOL!!!

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 4, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    So does Paget Brewster…LOL!

    Ken B on October 5, 2017 at 2:19 pm

Ysidrio California ?? James Huberty (white guy)
Colorado ?? Robert Lewis Dear, Jr. (White guy)
Pensacola Florida ?? Paul Hill (White guy)
Alexandria Virginia ?? James Hodgkinson (white guy)
Lafayette Louisiana ?? John Houser (white guy)
Pennsylvania ?? Rockne Newell (white guy)
Webster New York ?? William Spengler (white guy)
Copley Township Ohio ?? Michael Hance (white guy)
St. Louis Missouri ?? Timothy Hendron (white guy)
Kennesaw Georgia ?? Jesse Warren (white guy)
Kirkwood Missouri ?? Charles Thornton (white guy)
Knoxville Tennessee ?? Jim Adkinsson (white guy)
Charleston SC ?? Dylann Roof (white guy)
Sandy Hook Connecticut ??Adam Lanza (white guy)
Las Vegas Nevada ?? Stephen C Paddock (white guy)

Excuse Makers. Terrorists.

DisgustedAtYouPeople on October 5, 2017 at 1:11 am

    I see that . . .

    the bot known as . . .

    D(o)
    Y(ou)
    A(llow)
    P(opups)

    has reared its head again. True to programming.

    Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm

YEAH!!!

She makes a better one, LOL!!!

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 5, 2017 at 2:23 pm

Beware of the bot known as . . .

D(umb)
A(s)
Y(eltsin’s)
P(propaganda)

Bots cannot think, only take up space, and annoy. For me, this can be fun, but I will be away from the computer for a while.

So, beware of the bot known as . . .

D(on’t)
A(lways)
Y(ell)
P(utz)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 5, 2017 at 4:52 pm

Maybe the bot was taken down. I’m going to sleep soon. While I am gone, please . . .

D(isregard)
A(ll)
Y(ipping)
P(uppies)

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 5, 2017 at 11:23 pm

You can’t legislate against evil but you can legislate so that evil has a hard time getting access to the tools of their said evils.
Conservatives need to quit their dumb talking points and get real. Becoming a bad joke

DisgustedAtYouPeople on October 6, 2017 at 12:23 am

    DAYP:

    The only bad joke here has you as the punchline!

    YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 4:55 pm

Yup, it’s a bot alright, totally senseless.

I would tell the bot that the people who it is programmed to believe are conservatives are not really conservatives, at least most of them, but it’s a bot, totally senseless.

Remember the No Peanuts Allowed college football game article Debbie put up in what, 9/2013 or 2014? Remember how many bots, and how much boilerplate text was thrown at this site?

D(uly)
A(llergic)
Y(oung)
P(ansies)

I could get really nasty of course, and call this thing names that Debbie could not allow on her site. This thing wouldn’t budge. It would keep posting this complete nonsense.

This bot probably came From Russia, With Love.

Alfredo from Puerto Rico on October 6, 2017 at 6:48 am

We’ve come a long way since my father’s FBI, which was simply

Fat
Bald
Ignorant

long before acronym revision was popular.

YCHtT on October 7, 2017 at 4:11 pm

I’d be REALLY interested in seeing that autopsy of him. What do you wanna bet he had a terminal cancer, Huntington’s Chorea, or ALS? Or any other disease that would make his lifeline very short. Not hard to see why he might want to “go out with a bang”.

LIndaF on November 14, 2017 at 2:32 pm

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