November 10, 2009, - 12:18 pm

Quote of the Day: Supremes Reconsider Life Sentences for Juvie Thugs

By Debbie Schlussel

Last month, I published a column on, Sullivan v. Florida and Graham v. Florida, two cases the U.S. Supreme Court is considering, which challenge life sentences in prison for juveniles, claiming they are cruel and unusual punishment.  There are 110 juvenile convicts, nationwide, who are serving life in prison without the possibility of parole.


Joe Sullivan: At 13, He Raped 72-Year-Old.

As I noted then, at least one of the parties challenging this, Joe Sullivan, is in prison for life for a very good reason:  he raped a 72-year-old woman.  And that was after 17 other offenses, including animal cruelty.  As the judge in the case noted, he’s hopeless.

Yesterday, the Supremes heard oral arguments on the case. 

In a similar previous case, Roper–which eliminated the death penalty for juveniles, Justice Anthony Kennedy voted with the liberals on the court and, in fact, wrote the decision.

But perhaps he’s seen the light. Justice Anthony Kennedy’s question to liberal lawyers in the case is priceless:

Why does a juvenile have a constitutional right to hope, but an adult does not?

The lawyer’s answer wasn’t convincing.

Oh, and of course, leave it to hypocritical double-standard Terrorist News Network Al-Jazeera to use the life sentences for these thugs to show the world how “inhumane” we are. How many years in prison do you think these “kids” would get in a Muslim nation, where Jazeera is popular, or in Qatar, where it is based and funded?

Answer: none. They’d be instantly tortured to death, in any of these places.

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[Debbie-How many years in prison do you think these “kids” would get in a Muslim nation, where Jazeera is popular, or in Qatar, where it is based and funded?

Answer: none. They’d be instantly tortured to death, in any of these places.]

I believe that is not correct for the rape charge. According to Islamic law, the woman must be severely punished if she has sex outside of marriage where she is not raped. In order to prove rape 4 men must have witnessed it (implied is that none of the men stopped the rape).

This is why woman do not report rapes in Islamic countries. If the rape cannot be proven (and it almost never is due to the constraints I just mentioned) the woman is severely punished. She has admitted to the sex by reporting the rape, and since the rape cannot be proven she is considered to have consented.

DM: Wrong with Black guys, as these two guys are. In fact, there are several cases of Black men being beheaded in Saudi Arabia’s Chop-Chop Square for merely having their hands accidentally brush against the hands of Arab Muslim females. DS

David Makowsky on November 10, 2009 at 12:41 pm

I believe regardless of age, if you commit murder you should be put to death. For other crimes against persons, for life. People need to be kept safe from people who will assault, rape and murder again and it doesn’t matter whether the offender is a child or an adult. Its not cruel and unusual punishment to keep them forever behind bars.

NormanF on November 10, 2009 at 12:48 pm

David is correct. In Muslim countries the abuse and rape of females is common place and they receive no protection from the law. And women have no real rights to speak of. Again, these are the misogynists the Left works so hard to defend!

NF: See my response, above. DS

NormanF on November 10, 2009 at 12:52 pm

There is a general belief that at about 50 or so these psychopaths are too old to cause trouble. I have two words in response: Anthony Sowell.

As for the comment about rape in the Islamic world, the issue is far more complex. Raping an Islamic woman in her home would likely bring about a death sentence in both Iran and Saudi Arabia. To use the religious poles as examples. Raping an infidel might get you 5 years in the Gulf, no time in Iran. But if caught (and that is a whole different story), Turkey would impose severe punishment as would Tunisia. Then they would let the rapist out when the publicity died out.

pat on November 10, 2009 at 12:53 pm

And the world needs these “kids” WHY? I see no redeeming value (sorry for the legaleze) I say give them sparky and make the world a better place.

And add this one to the mix (of course, another muzzie):

RICHMOND, Va. – Gov. Tim Kaine denied clemency Tuesday for sniper John Allen ***Muhammad***, clearing the way for him to be executed for the attacks that terrorized the nation’s capital region for three weeks in 2002.

Then, we can sing Happy Days.

goldenmike4393 on November 10, 2009 at 12:53 pm

You had to add the animal cruelty. It is present in so many felons background, it makes me want a license to KILL.

Remember BTK? He was an animal control officer. I shutter to think past this fact…

goldenmike4393 on November 10, 2009 at 12:55 pm

The truth is rehabilitation is wasted on some people. Society shouldn’t be made a guinea pig for their cruelty.

NormanF on November 10, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Maybe we should ask Jaycee Duggard about rehabilitation of a rapist. I am guessing the 18 years she spent with that animal is indeed a life sentence for her and the 2 daughters he fathered with her. Take a lcose look at these individuals and you will see that most lack what is takes for self-reflection necessary for correcting their defects. In their eyes, it is the mainstream society that is abnormal. There is nothing wrong with them, at least according to them and their liberal, bleeding heart supporters.

Musiccgirl on November 10, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Hmmmm,, I’ll have to dither on this one a while.

OsamaHusseinIslamObama 2012′
(the terrorist-Uighur-ACORN-media choice)
-It’s never too early to campaign-

Barry Soetoro (D-King Of The World!) on November 10, 2009 at 2:19 pm

These scum should be executed–pre 18 or no. Who knows what this Supreme court will come up with, though,–we know it is only going to get more and more liberal with Obama putting on Sotomayer and other affirmative action boob appointees.

BHO and company say we have to mollycoddle terrorists at Gitmo and policy is to now read prisoner detainees their newly endowed Miranda rights on foreign battle fields. We can’t call it a terrorist attack anymore–(a domestic disturbance is the preferred charge)–Yes, we can see where this is going…and it stinks to high heaven.

BB on November 10, 2009 at 3:22 pm

I would say that these people have proven that they are unfit to live in society, especially in the case of the 16 year old. LWPP is a perfectly satisfactory response to such crimes. A 13 year old and definitely a 16 year old, unless proven to be insane, are perfectly capable of understanding the nature of their actions.

sorrow01 on November 10, 2009 at 6:12 pm

we are doomed, what a helpless, hapless country. get this ////// off to jail and keep him there. what a monster.

lindapolver on November 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm

Where’s this guy doing his time? If we cannot kill them for their crimes, then these scumbags should be doing hard time, like turning icebergs into ice cubes.

Jarhead on November 10, 2009 at 7:57 pm

While I agree that they should not ever be allowed out and in fact SHOULD be executed comparing their punishment here to an islamic nation is wrong. Don’t forget the raped 72 yr old in a muslim nation would be charged with a crime NOT the criminal Not to mention they follow Muhammed who was an admitted Child Molester, murderer, liar, and thug.

Martin Fee on November 11, 2009 at 7:06 am

Only problem here is; often the attorneys, judges and prosecutor’s are as crooked as the offender. They keep score cards on wins and losses like it’s a football game that pays well.
Justice should be swift and honest. We have the swift under control, it’s the honesty in the judgement that worries most people. With today’s situational ethics being taught to our children, we’re running out of people to fill the jury boxes.
Let the offended person choose the punishment, if the case does come to a guilty conclusion.

Huffer on November 11, 2009 at 9:35 am

I really had to laugh at the Lawyer’s answer to the query by Kennedy about WHY they should be let out. Because they are different? Because they still can change? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sullivan wasn’t going to choir practice when the Devil suddenly made him want to rape an Elderly Woman. He was a useless piece of dog crap then and on his way to Hell. Personally, I think his sentence is too LIGHT. Life in prison…poor lad. I feel bad…oh wait…I don’t.

Robitj on November 11, 2009 at 12:45 pm

I served a grand jury term in Florida (6 months)- all of the cases we were presented with were capital murder, all involving teenage boys as the murderers. One case was a 13 year old boy who planned the execution of his “girlfriend’s” father. We listened to tapes of his confession, about how he planned to make it look like a burglary gone wrong… including being careful about wearing gloves and not leaving “forensic” evidence. He absolutely knew exactly what he was doing and what the consequences would be if he were caught.

We voted unanimously to indict for capital murder.

There are indeed “defectives” among us, and the only solution to preventing them from passing along their defects, whether genetic or not, is to get rid of them. Permanently.

(I’m only referring to dangerous defectives- not handicapped people, who are some of the nicest, kindest, sweetest people I’ve ever known)

Doda McCheesle on November 11, 2009 at 12:55 pm

What sort of household creates a thirteen yearold capable of such heinous thoughts. So much for corrupting our youth with religion. I perfer my kids to worship God rather than have such criminal backgrounds.

seahawker on November 11, 2009 at 9:02 pm

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