January 5, 2010, - 11:17 am

Dearbornistan Muslim Arab Students’ Sweatshirts Glorify 9/11

By Debbie Schlussel

**** UPDATE, 01/06/10: Told Ya So: Arab Muslim Students Admit Sweatshirts Were Belligerence About 9/11, Flight 253 ****

As I have told you over and over again, despite their declared “condemnations” of the 9/11 attacks, Muslims all over America praised and cheered the mass murder of nearly 3,000 Americans.  Last week, I told you about how four Muslim Arab employees cheered at a Ford engineering plant high-fived, cheered, and laughed at the 9/11 attacks, and got to keep their jobs for three years thereafter.


This week, it’s fifteen Arab Muslim students at Dearbornistan’s Edsel Ford High School.  They made sweatshirts glorifying the 9/11 attacks, depicting the twin towers with a plane about to fly into it.  “Religion of Peace,” indeed.  It’s disgusting, but it’s the way of life in Dearbornistan and–soon–your neck of the woods (and, actually, already there).  Watch the video.  In case you are curious, “LOUI” is an Arabic name and surname.

About 15 Arab-American students at Edsel Ford High School are in trouble over a sweatshirt they had made over the holiday break.  On the back of the sweatshirt, the number 11 is made to look like the World Trade Center Towers. The school’s mascot, a thunderbird, is seen flying toward the number.

Under the graphic, a tagline reads, “You can’t bring us down.”  The students wore the hooded sweatshirts to school Monday.

The “you can’t bring us down” part is not referring to America or the towers, but to their fellow Arab Muslims who flew the planes on 9/11.  They clearly meant to make a statement after the Flight 253 attack that happened in their backyard while they were on winter break.

They were immediately sent to the principal’s office.The sweatshirts were confiscated.“What took place here today was an inappropriate, distasteful act,” said David Mustonen, a spokesman for Dearborn Schools. “(It was) totally inappropriate, totally disrespectful, and they just were not thinking.”The students told the principal they didn’t mean any harm by having the sweatshirts made.

Uh-huh.  Sure, they didn’t.  And by the way, David Mustonen has his job by virtue of pandering to the Arab Muslims who run Dearborn.  He’s never had the guts to stand up to him.  And this is no exception.  He constantly appears in the media as an apologist for his school district’s Hezbollah High a/k/a Fordson High School and its Islamic extremist principal, Imad Fadlallah, who runs the school, like his cousin, Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, runs Hezbollah, constantly harassing and persecuting non-Muslim employees and students, and giving them the day off and extra credit to campaign against Christian candidates for the Dearborn City Council and School Board.

Other students who heard about and saw the shirts said they were disgusted.“I found them very offensive and I didn’t think it was funny or fun at all,” said Brittany Johnson, a senior at Edsel Ford High.The school has not said what disciplinary action will be taken against the students.“If I was in charge, I would have them expelled,” said Lindsey Winstrand. “But I think suspension is the least they can do.”The students told the principal they had the sweatshirts made at the Gibraltar Trade Center for about $25 each.

Yup, another bonus:  the money probably went straight to Hezbollah or HAMAS.  The Gibraltar Trade Center is infested by Shi’ite and Sunni Muslims selling counterfeit designer clothes and merchandise for cash, and, apparently, a good deal of the money goes straight to the Middle East to finance Hezbollah and HAMAS.  Yet, ICE–Immigration and Customs Enforcement–won’t touch Gibraltar because its Michigan/Ohio Special Agent in Charge, Brian Moskowitz a/k/a “Abu Moskowitz,” doesn’t want to offend his Muslim falafel-eating buddies.  Instead, they’re going after non-Muslims in most cases.

The next time you hear Muslims or Arab groups issuing yet another one of their empty, phony “condemnations” of Al-Qaeda, the 9/11 attacks, or the Northwest Flight 253 attack by Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, remember these sweatshirts and remember the Muslim employees at Ford.  Those are their REAL feelings about the Islamic mass-murder of nearly 3,000 Americans.

It’s trite, but true:  Actions speak louder than words.  And talk is cheap.  Sweatshirts and jobs, on the other hand, are costly.  And we see how our Arab Muslim residents of America invest themselves.

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Iraq, Afghanistan? No, the real war is right here.

tempus fugit on January 5, 2010 at 11:19 am

    You sir are a scumbag. I go to Edsel Ford currently and know what Debbie says is all false. This is all taken way out of context to create fear in people which sounds like terrorism to me. Which would make Debbie a terrorist herself and anyone who agrees with her and believes her lies is supporting terrorism.

    Collin on January 5, 2010 at 9:20 pm

      P.S. I forgot to add Loui is just this kids nickname. So Debbie is a lying to you all.

      Collin on January 5, 2010 at 9:23 pm

The “you can’t bring us down” part is not referring to America or the towers, but to their fellow Arab Muslims who flew the planes on 9/11.

–How do you know this, Debbie? It’s certainly not clear from the sweatshirts.

J: It’s very clear to everyone who saw them . . . everyone but the extremely naive. DS

Jim on January 5, 2010 at 11:31 am

LOUI = Look Out U Infidels – was my first impression, maybe I’m wrong.

Rocky on January 5, 2010 at 11:41 am

    I go to Edsel Ford highschool and I just wanted to tell you that ” LOUI” doesn’t mean anything. It’s just one of the students last name.

    Allie on January 5, 2010 at 4:26 pm

    I live in Dearborn, and am a senior at Edsel Ford High School and it’s a total disgrace to see this article. I am also glad i get to be exposed to the Arabic culture, and i have not witnessed any form of terrorism. You go into any of the Arab owned stores, and you are treated with nothing but respect, no matter what your race. Now, i don’t agree with what these kids did, and i do believe that they knew better, but i know they didn’t mean it in a way to promote terrorism.

    anon on January 5, 2010 at 8:13 pm


      Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 10:37 pm

      Edsel Ford Student myself. Its about time the white community sees what we have to put up with (Debbie)

      Mohamad Farhat on January 5, 2010 at 11:40 pm

Soon in my “neck of the woods”? HA!

Over the last several weeks, apparently the local mosque told the creeps to wear their “garb”. At the laundromat, you see a ghoulish female in black, face covered. It’s disgusing.

I went into Walgreens and both cashiers were male muzzies with that creepy hair cut and facial hair. I asked one why both had the same hair and facial design. Before he could answer (mostly they remain “silent”), I said, “You’re muslim.” He said, “Yes, we are muslims.” Of course, I will never return to Walgreens again.


goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    i’m completely repulsed by your comment. Did you agree with the Holocaust too? This site is filled with the most racist and cruel comments I have seen in a long time. I know that someone like you, someone as ignorant as you couldn’t begin to comprehend what equality and justice is. Have you ever studied Islam? Have you ever read an english translated Qur’an? I have and I am not Muslim. The religion is peaceful but due to recent incidents, words are being twisted. If it was such a bad and evil religion why is it the 2nd largest religion in the world and growing, why do people continue to convert if it is so bad? This country is supposed to be about peace and equality for all people. If you are going to base your judgement of a billion+ people on 1 incident then all people should hate Catholics because of the history of violence and more recently the preverted Priests. So much of what you feel comes off of media manipulation. Do you think its an accident that in every movie you watch the “good guys” , the lead “hero”, is white and the “bad guys” are usually middle eastern. Is it a coincidence that Islamic countries happen to be rich in resources needed by the United States? I know you are probably disregarding everything I have said. Hopefully people like you arn’t the majority becuase if the country falls to racism, it won’t stop and intolerance will lead to the down fall of this country as a world power. History is proof of this. You should read Day of Empire by Amy Chua, it might be too advanced for you though.

    todaysday on January 5, 2010 at 8:43 pm

This is disgusting and we have no Government protection from these Shiite heads and we are all just sitting ducks to them while they do what they want here and we have no say so about it. What Country is this again?

Wild Man on January 5, 2010 at 12:23 pm

They do invest themselves in hating America. And their leftist moonbat friends probably find it cute – wouldn’t be surprised if both CAIR/ACLU found it to be a “free speech” case.


NormanF on January 5, 2010 at 12:29 pm

i find it ironic that muslims in america don’t realize that one day — one fine day — there will be a real backlash ion america. a backlash that they themselves created.

i hope they’ll be wearing these same t-shirts on that day.

howardroark on January 5, 2010 at 12:47 pm

This whole article and the comments are extremely racist and offensive. I wish I had never stumbled onto this site. It makes me sad to know that hateful, ignorant people like you exist.

P: It doesn’t make me sad to know that so many ignorant, clueless, naive, people like you exist. It just makes me angry. DS

Patricia on January 5, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Yes, I guess it is all about racism rather than students approving of the mass murder of Americans. Also, no one forces you to come to this site. Finally, what race is Islam again?

    Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 1:00 pm



    Your self denial of the reality will get you and your family killed.

    Howard on January 5, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    I find this article offensive as well….I’m guessing not for the same reason as you do.

    Charmaine on January 5, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Patricia – this is NOT about race. It is about a RELIGION that wants to kill all the non-believers. Most people who comment here are, in my opinion, quite reserved in their comments. I know that I have had to tame my words quite often about these muzzie bastards.

    Jarhead on January 5, 2010 at 1:22 pm

      Dear Jar:

      It’s really NOT a RELIGION. It’s fascism disguised as religion. You know the saying about a duck… quack!

      goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    This whole article and the comments are extremely racist and offensive. I wish I had never stumbled onto this site. It makes me sad to know that hateful, ignorant people like you exist.

    P: It doesn’t make me sad to know that so many ignorant, clueless, naive, people like you exist. It just makes me angry. DS

    Patricia on January 5, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Patricia: you’re a liar. You’re not sad, you’re glad.

    Debbie: Becoming agry is a normal response, but I feel more like oiling my gun.

    goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 4:43 pm

Stupid Arab-American kids being stupid.

NB: Arab-American kids Being American-Arab and stupidly breaking the silence and PR job and telling us how they really feel. DS

Norman Blitzer on January 5, 2010 at 12:50 pm


cirrus1701 on January 5, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    it will be different in this country, muslim. when the day comes when we are pushed into a corner, you will know it.

    and be sure to wear your t-shirt.

    howardroark on January 5, 2010 at 7:46 pm

They’re still making Edsels!

Solomon2 on January 5, 2010 at 1:31 pm

Are these muzzie future terrorist punks going to be put on our Terror Watch List? Probably not, they will just be invited to the next Easter Egg Roll at the White House.

Jarhead on January 5, 2010 at 1:31 pm


Do more research before spouting off on that which you have no clue.

The mascot for Edsel Ford is “The Thunderbirds” which is the item flying toward the numbers. The “11” represents the year the students who created the shirt are to graduate. The “you can not bring us down” refers to the numbers, not the thunderbird.

Enough with the fear mongering already.

MR: No kidding. Duh, that was in the article I posted above. I don’t need to “do more research.” You need to get a brain cell transfusion. You are incredibly gullible. Yup, Arab Muslims used the school mascot and a number to ake a sweatshirt glorifying 9/11, so that means it’s okay and we should ignore their obvious message. Enough with the stupidity mongering already. DS

MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Would you prefer to just deport them, or better yet, throw them into a Muslim internment camp?

    Ignore the incident? Not at all. Investigate it, find out the facts and move on.

    MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 1:58 pm

      You are really becoming unhinged. As for more research, even the school district administrators in Dearborn as well as the students “got the message” on those sweatshirts. The appropriate response to this incident is a suspension from school or detention. These incidents are not a joke, but warning flags. We had the disappearing Somalis in Minnesota come up just a few months ago, and guess where many of them were evenutally found?

      Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm

      MidwestRick – internment camps aren’t such a bad idea, just build them off of U.S. soil. About 1000 miles due east off the coast of North Carolina would be ideal. Don’t worry about sending any innocents to die. We would only send those confirmed aggressive muslims. You know, the ones that go to mosques a few times a day.

      I bet that some of these incidents wouldn’t be occurring if we had a 0% muslim population in the U.S.

      Jarhead on January 5, 2010 at 3:40 pm

        You sound like the same type of guy who killed a Sikh a few days after 9/11 because he was wearing a turban and a beard.

        MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm

      My preference is to round them up and shoot them. Thanks for asking.

      goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 4:49 pm

Remind me again why are we allowing these scum into our country. We grant them asylum as well as government fundings. We stretch ourselves so far out to give them an opportunity to have a better life in America. These Islamists are only too grateful for our generosity and altruism. If they are proud of the $h!tholes they hail from then let them go back there and relive their oppressive lifestyles.

American Sabrah on January 5, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    “Remind me again why are we allowing these scum into our country. ”

    How do you know they weren’t born here? If they were, they have just as much right to live here as you do.

    MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 2:00 pm

      Midwest Muzzie:

      You don’t have a right to preach murder and kill. That takes the life and liberty out of America.

      So, please go back where you came from. Repatriation is the call of the day.

      goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 7:19 pm

The Muzzies have a 100 year plan to take over and rule in our great FREE country. They take a little hear and there. Demand a little hear and there. Soon, they have their way and are protected via laws that our ignorant congress people passed.

Islam is of the DEVIL! We need to root them out and send them packing! Go back to the hell hole you came from! Don’t try to turn our great country into that awful place you came from!

We need a few more General Pershings in our ranks!

Anti-Allah on January 5, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    “Islam is of the DEVIL! ” Replace Islam with all organized religion and I might agree with you.

    MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 2:24 pm

      To: MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 2:24 pm

      Hey! Muzzie! Find another forum to stink up, or better yet, consider repatriation.

      goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 4:51 pm

      Yes, those evil Methodists and Presbyterians are people to watch our for. You do seem to have a personal investment in Islam. Care to disclose it?

      Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 10:40 pm


One question I do have is, have you found out what the “LOUI” means or represents?

MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 2:42 pm

THIS was copied from the comments on this article at wdiv:
Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77..5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Dearborn area on January 5, 2010 at 3:09 pm

Hers a book to read about Muslims in India..it ain’t workin there either.

Dearborn area on January 5, 2010 at 3:58 pm

Debbie, your ignorant and LOUI is the kids nickname.
The shoebomber was white. Sweetheart get your facts straight.
You just sound racist in your article and how can you ridicule more then a billion muslims worldwide? Two words: IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY.

DebbieDisgusts on January 5, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    “Debbie, your ignorant and LOUI is the kids nickname.”

    Before calling others ignorant, you should probably use spell check. It’s “you’re”.

    MidwestRick on January 5, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    “In case you are curious, “LOUI” is an Arabic name and surname.”

    She explained what that name, and what is your beef with that?

    Also, if you are talking about Richard Reid, he was of mixed race and a Moslem. Islam is not a race.

    Also, you seem to be rather defensive. Did you like seeing all of those people slaughtered on 9-11? Why hide behind the umma, answer for yourself.

    Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 5:15 pm

To debbiedisgusts,
Yep she does, Mostly Muslim terrorists

Truth hurts…EH?

Dearborn dude on January 5, 2010 at 4:09 pm

Sweetheart. I’m an American 100%. But I know that I’m not a racist and LOUI is not an arabic name and surname. You have it all wrong. The world has come to racist junk.

DebbieDisgusts on January 5, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I am glad that you know so many things. Let us know when you are prepared to share them with us, rather than the oily rags that you are peddling.

    Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 10:51 pm

We rounded up the Japanese during World War II, and they were doing a lot less than these Muslims. It’s past time to use some of the closed military bases, and put these disloyal Muslims in these bases. Maybe if they’re convicted of disloyalty they should be sterilized.

Little Al on January 5, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    To Little Al on January 5, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    Punishment for the crime of treason is death, not sterilization!

    goldenmike4393 on January 5, 2010 at 7:20 pm

Okay, I’m a student at Edsel Ford High and I am so shocked at this article. It is crawling with ignorance and cruel racism. Get your facts straight before you publish something, you know nothing. The sweaters werent meant to be a threat and yes it was stupid and unnessecary, but they were just showing pride in their GRADUATING CLASS. yes it is offensive, but this shouldnt have even gotten the publicity it got.

TheRealOne on January 5, 2010 at 7:30 pm

    Yes, the number “eleven” dressed up as two office towers with windows. Then we have the bird flying into the towers and looking remarkably like a jet. Finally we have this little statement: ““You can’t bring us down.” Yes, just ordinary Islamic supremacism in a local public school. Nothing to see here.

    Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 10:48 pm

it will be different here in the US, muslims. once you’ve backed us into a corner, you will know it.

be sure to wear your islam t-shirt on that day…

howardroark on January 5, 2010 at 7:48 pm


I will not say to serch or investigat the incedent, because this is common in any religion or nationality; there will be some that are ignorent (plus there 16 years old), and what is up with it when a “arab” is mentioned, “islam” is always the big story. Why wasn’t it when the shoebomber, it was not “Christianity” the big picture.
One more question, did you research on Islam?

From the sight on January 5, 2010 at 7:52 pm

Debbie, this is the most ignorant and unbelievable thing I’ve ever read.
first off, referring to Dearborn as “Dearbornistan” is probably the most racist thing you could call our city.
I feel privileged to live in Dearborn, and to be able to be exposed to Muslim cultures like I am.

“Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, runs Hezbollah, constantly harassing and persecuting non-Muslim employees and students, and giving them the day off and extra credit to campaign against Christian candidates for the Dearborn City Council and School Board.”

I’m a junior at Fordson, and this is the biggest crock of bull, if anything Mr. Fadlallah goes easy on the non-Muslim students, we have many non-Muslim teachers, who all seem very happy to be at Fordson. i guarantee you, NOT ONE would complain about being ‘harassed or persecuted’ by Fadlallah for not being Muslim. I dont even know where you got the whole ‘day off/extra credit’ thing, you probably pulled it out of your ass like the rest of your extremely false article.

Alex on January 5, 2010 at 7:53 pm

okay so first off, calling a school “hezbollah high” is completely racist and not right. you are a flat out bitch. There is NOTHING wrong with arab muslims. And just because sweatshirts were made isn’t something that has to become NATIONAL. I really doubt the students are gonna do something bad, they were just being stupid. Yes, I as an arab-american agree that this is a disgrace to arabci people, but to put words in the principals mouth at fordson saying he did things such as let the kids out for no reason and cut the arabic kids slack? your disasterously pathetic. Oh and another thing, you can’t throw groups from the middle east in to this you fucking cunt, just go fuck yourself. stupid bitch.

dontworry on January 5, 2010 at 8:05 pm

Honestly, you give every white person SUCH a bad name, Debs. I’m 100% American, and I was disgusted by this article. I’m 15 years old, and I know more about respect than you. What you wrote in this article was terrible. “Dearbornistan”? Really? Last time I checked, the city was Dearborn. You generalizing all Arabic people the way you did, must have been a joke. NOT ALL ARABIC PEOPLE ARE TERRORISTS. And not all Arabic students at Edsel Ford wore the hoodies. What if it were white students? How would you react? Yes, the hoodies were offensive, but i doubt the students were thinking “Oh,lets make these mock 9-11!” What you said was racist and demeaning to many people. I understand that what these students did was wrong, but there is no need to offend the whole Arabic community. They all didn’t participate. I apologize to Arabic people who were offended by this.?And I feel you too, Debbie, should apologize.
PS, Loui is clearly someones last name.

Everyone Stop being so Racist! on January 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    To all the students who wrote in protesting this offensive article: Well done! You are the ones we depend on, in the future, to keep this kind of thing in check. There will always be people like this blogger who want to pin every evil on another religion, another country, another belief system. I am proud that your generation sees a better way than that. And N Tipton, you are my hero!

    justsayin on January 6, 2010 at 8:42 am

Dearborn area… THANKSfor the excerpt from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book. The Islamofascist problem by percentages.

We all know the message those students were sending… and no amount of double-speak can smoke us!

Those Muslim students were forced to take off those Islamist shirts! Terrible! Watch Muslim Obama sic the DOJ (Department of Justice) on the principal, like he is anywhere else Muslims are challenged. He IS remaking America folks!

The Canadien on January 5, 2010 at 8:27 pm

Wow, what if these students were supporting abortion, gay marriage, and barack obama?! That would just be TERRIBLE! Stop being racist, and chill out!

blahhhhhhh on January 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    A better question would be to ask what would happen to a group of students promoting Pro-Life, Defense of Marriage, Judaism & Christianity, and Reagan Era Political values? Bet you’d have the ACLU (Arabic Criminal Lawyer’s Union) crawling out from under every rock and brick in Dearborne.

    Mistress_Dee on January 6, 2010 at 8:51 am

Debbie, you can’t blame all Muslims. I am a Muslim and graduated from Edsel last year, so is this my fault? They are complete dumbasses but don’t blame it on them being Muslim or Arab. Honestly, I’m more offended by them than you, but they don’t represent me. Blaming their actions on being Arab is racist and blaming it on Islam is generalizing. I actually agree with you, Muslims need to do more than just condemn things like this, but at the same time, I am not responsible for what they did; and neither is Islam.

Chris/Abdallah on January 5, 2010 at 8:41 pm

I’m a student @ Edsel, & in this article, you pretty much say that any Arabic person who lives in America is a terrible person. You can’t judge the entire race on an event that was the effect of 15 ignorant people, who happen to be Arabic. Some of the nicest people I know are Arabic & it’s because they’re just like us, they’re just a different race and practice a different religion. You really should watch how you word things because not all the students @ Edsel would pull a stunt like this, you don’t know us & we don’t know you, so don’t judge every person who attends this school based upon these 15 kids.

Alyssa on January 5, 2010 at 9:16 pm

The ignorant students of Dearbornistan have invaded Debbie’s site. All I have to say is thank you all for showing us that Debbie is right in her learned analysis of you people living there. I’m shocked and amazed that any of you will even graduate.
Debbie can speak and defend her self, and has done so against more hateful and “intelligent” but since all of you are to stupid to read her bio, she is a member of Mensa, look it up on line. She has also studied Islam longer than all of you have been alive.
Thanks for stopping by though. I guess Bush’s “no child left behind” didn’t apply to you.

perception of truth on January 5, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    wat is there a problem that were on this site? u dont even no wats going on prolly,your just some guy in cali that doesnt no shit, except ur on debbie’s nuts

    Warren on January 6, 2010 at 12:32 am

      -Another affirmative action enrollment candidate for Harvard seeking a BA in English, apparently.

      Do they actually teach you to write like that in the high school you attend? If so, it’s no wonder we’re on the road to ruin.

      Mistress_Dee on January 6, 2010 at 1:18 pm

I see the teachers at Dearbornistan’s Edsel Ford High School are having the students flood this forum with negative posts about Debbie.
You can tell that their posts did not originate from an original thought. Like the same opening sentence that “I am shocked”.

I wonder how many extra credit points they get for posting here?

ScottyDog on January 5, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Dear ScottyDog,

    The teachers of Edsel Ford DID NOT urge the students and Dearborn Muslims to post here! I DID!

    Why? Because I think that people that read this site need to realize that the community of Dearborn and other Muslims in America DO NOT agree with what those students did.

    And if Ms. Schlussel can publicize what those kids did in a negative light, then the Muslims who would NEVER do such a thing have the right to express their views regarding this as well.

    Maybe those of you that are spewing hate and are fearful of Islam will realize that not every Muslim is a potential terrorist and that there are actually quite a few who do not want to be associated with the negativity that these kids created.

    The kids of Edsel Ford High, past and present, are not claiming “No Comment”. They’re pissed that these kids gave them a bad name and want the whole world to know it!!!

    Leilani on January 5, 2010 at 10:17 pm

      “Maybe those of you that are spewing hate and are fearful of Islam will realize that not every Muslim is a potential terrorist and that there are actually quite a few who do not want to be associated with the negativity that these kids created.”

      Ah, you admit that it is not a spontaneous effort. Your ego has gotten the better of you. Also, these students,if they are in fact students, spend more time attacking others and defending the sweatshirt guys than anything else. Also, the “spewing hate” charge is the old Islamist boilerplate when people criticize Islam, and people are up on that one. If you want to see where the negativity originates, look in the mirror with your hijab off. Also, look up what the term “projection” means in psychology.

      Worry01 on January 5, 2010 at 10:59 pm

        Dear Worry01,

        Sure it’s a spontaneous effort. They read the article, watched the news and were discussing it on Facebook. The general sentiment was a.) they were mad that those kids did such an ignorant thing and b.) they felt it put them ALL in a bad light.

        So, during this discussion, we discussed what they could do about it and I urged them to go make their own comments and stand up for themselves not only on Facebook but also on this website. It was up to them whether they did it or not. Nobody was holding a gun to their heads.

        Secondly, the “spewing hate” is the old boilermaker of ANY racist attitude towards a group. I’ve been to the Holocaust Center and have watched several documentaries regarding the KKK. It’s not new and original with the Muslims. It’s been an accepted term since racism got to be out with the free-thinking and intelligent people of America.

        Lastly, “take the hijab off”? I’m sorry but I don’t wear a Hijab. If anything, I am the “Anti-Muslim” in appearance, habits and modesty. I drink, smoke and own about 20 bikinis that I am not afraid to wear…lol. I find it funny how you presume that I am Muslim because I do not agree with your hatred. I find it even funnier that my Muslim friends ACCEPT ME FOR WHO I AM knowing that I have all of these bad habits and am very unlike them. But there’s your testament to who’s actually hating who… You hate them because they are not like you. You fear them because you don’t understand them. Yet you do not take the time to get to know a few. And it really is your loss…

        Oh yeah, and Jim. Debbie is FAMOUS for deleting comments she doesn’t agree with and verbally bashing them. Last year she called me a troll. I guess I’m a troll then. A five foot eight troll. Six feet with heels on. Shit, I must be the tallest troll in the United States…lol.

        And good job my Dearborn Homies. Keep it up and keep writing. Keep voicing your opinion! Stand up to the bigots on here!!! It’s thoughts like these that created to the Holocaust. Ms. Schlussel should know this being a Hebrew and all!! 🙂

        Leilani on January 6, 2010 at 9:09 am

This is so obvious the notion of anything striking a building doesn’t represent 9/11 is not even defensible. Do you think we were born last night?? Everyone knows about two tower and the number 11. The statement ‘You can’t bring us down’ begs the rhetorical question ‘Are these students stronger than those that had their buildings taken down?’

Let me ask these students, was America weak for having their buildings taken down? Was that the implication that America is weak and they are strong?

CaliforniaScreaming on January 5, 2010 at 10:11 pm

Debbie is now censoring and deleting comments. She is just a coward-bully.

Jim on January 5, 2010 at 10:36 pm

God, I find it incredible how most of you “Americans” consider yourself to be better people than ones that are of a different creed. You obviously know everything about your heritage, right? The heritage that didn’t start in the United States? Unless of course you’re a Native American. But you know what? You’re not, because they’re a peace-loving people.

Maybe the real terrorists are the ones that came into this country and slaughtered them all just to steal their land and claim it for their own. I hope you sleep well at night knowing you were the original terrorists on this great country’s soil.

If you’re going to talk about violent and destructive religions, let’s talk about Catholicism and early Christianity.

Did you know that more blood has been spilled in Jerusalem than almost any place in the world? Ironically, fighting for the most sacred of lands in the world. God’s land. That one square mile has been desecrated by the three largest monotheistic religions. Judaism, Christianity, AND Islam. Not one, not two of them, but all of them.

Are you surprised? You shouldn’t be. Hopefully you know things about your roots. I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t though.

So during the crusades, did you know that Christians killed almost as many Jews and Muslims than the current death toll of the Afghan Civil war? A war that’s been going on for almost 40 years now.

Yep. I’d still be pretty pissed off about that if I were them.

So, 9/11 sucked. It sucked REALLY bad. It was a terrible atrocity. Honestly though, is stuff like this going to help? I know some very good people who follow Islam. I’ve studied Islam. It’s not a bad religion. It can do some good things. Not surprisingly though, just like Christianity, it can do some really terrible things if it’s taken out of context and put to the extreme.

If you’re going to “oil up your guns” and do something about it, go ahead. Don’t sit online and complain about it. I’d love to hear your story on the 11 o’clock news.

PS – Yeah, I used my real name. I’m not an ignorant coward that is going to hide behind some silly account name in order to make prejudiced comments about people.

Nathan Tipton on January 5, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    @ Nathan Tipton

    Okay, dump the ‘poor native american crap’. I’m half Cherokee- and I do know the history of ‘my people’. I’ve said this before, but every liberal moral equivilist eventually comes down to using the Native American as their last resort example to desperately convince others, but most of all themseleves. Let me feed you this little tidbit to chew on- The Cherokee, Seminole, Choktaw and the others of the Five Civilized Tribes, owned black slaves- before and AFTER the forced migration on the trail of tears to Oklahoma from the S.E. USA. They fought on the side of the Confederacy in the Civil War. Additionally, the Native Americans themselves were known to commit genocide on unrelated tribes and native peoples. So sanctimony don’t cut it, jack. Last point on this is that the events you refer to happened more than a century ago. Natives on the rez today, can easily move into society and mainstream outside of the “Nations”. All it takes is the ambition and lack of ambivilence to do it- aspire to make a better life. Isnt’ that how the immigrants to America did it?

    Lastly, alognthe idea of a timeline- When Islam decides to leave the 7th century constructs, get a reformation and subsequent enlightenment, maybe then you can legitimately compare Islam’s attrocitys of their then past, to those of the Catholic church 500 to 1000 years ago. Until then you’re must being temporally disphoric.

    Mistress_Dee on January 6, 2010 at 8:39 am

The reason the responses are not “original” is because most of the posters have never been on this site before. I actually posted this site on Facebook to show the kids at Edsel what they did: giving people a reason to hate Islam. That might be why there are so many posts like that. It was certainly not teachers, that’s just ridiculous.

I want to hear from Debbie. Why do you always generalize about Muslims? Am I responsible for their actions?

Chris/Abdallah on January 5, 2010 at 11:18 pm

Mrs. Schlussel, would it be alright if I asked you a simple question?

First, I will say that those students were very much out of line, but don’t you think saying something along the lines of, “It’s disgusting, but it’s the way of life in Dearbornistan…” is negatively generalizing a group of people- Muslim and non-Muslim alike?

In my humble opinion, this – just like the sweatshirts – is in horrible taste. I am a proud student at Edsel Ford, and I really hope you don’t think ill of myself or anyone else who is fortunate enough to attend our school. You’re welcome to take this all as nothing more than a grain of salt, but those fifteen students who were ignorant and insensitive enough to get wrapped up in this mess are actually pretty good kids. (No, they aren’t terrorists or followers of Hezbollah.) They have their faults, just as we all have ours, and I believe that we should all look passed them and learn to forgive.

Whether or not you may have taken the time out of your schedule to read this trivial comment from one of your many readers, I hope you can put your differences aside and learn to love your fellow man as the individuals they were born to be- not just generalized as a group of ‘terrorists’.

God Bless!~ 🙂

~ Kristyn

Kristyn on January 5, 2010 at 11:20 pm

As a student that currently attends Edsel Ford high school, I am extremely disgusted and repalled by your distasteful and biased article.
I do agree that the sweatshirts were done in awful taste and are disrespectful to the people who suffered due to the 9/11 attacks. Though what I don’t understand is the way you are making Edsel students, and Dearborn citizens, seem.
“The “you can’t bring us down” part is not referring to America or the towers, but to their fellow Arab Muslims who flew the planes on 9/11. They clearly meant to make a statement after the Flight 253 attack that happened in their backyard while they were on winter break,” as quoted from your article I have one question for you, how do you know that?
Have you spoken to the students who made these sweatshirts? Have you spoken to the principle of Edsel Ford? Have you spoken to any first hand connection to these sweatshirts?
No, you have not. It’s wrong for you to infer these things, and to make assumptions of things you honestly do not know.
Like they say, when you assume you are only making an ass out of you and me.

Anonymous on January 5, 2010 at 11:34 pm

I also am a current student at Edsel Ford High School and i do not agree with your “brainwashing” propoganda. these are just mindless KIDS doing something stupid to be funny. of course your review is being blown out of proportion due to the fact that they’re Arabic. with the way you have described your feelings towards Arabic people, I am not only now disgusted with the kids that have done this but also with you. All i have to say is just because of the acts of a handful of brain dead people does not give an excuse to pretty much blame the rest of the people from the same ethnic group. -I am only a Sophmore so please excuse my non-perfect *OPINION*. I would also like to say to you ignorant people leaving nasty comments, you all need to open your eyes and get a clue, and this may be a shock to alot of you who have left these comments, but there is such thing as an intelligent and non troublesome Arab ,the majority of them are from my past experiences. i live around and amongst many, so although i am young, i definately have room to talk over an “adult” who simply sees one every now and then, just to shoot a dirty look at them while passing. thanks -avery

avery on January 5, 2010 at 11:41 pm

I realize arab people were involved in 9/11, and I realize these students were also arab-american.
But would this story have reached such high popularity if the students had been african-american, or irish-american, or mexican-american and made the sweatshirts?
The students race means nothing to me and it shouldn’t to others either.

Anonymous on January 5, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    LRL this is a comment too you. you must be more brain dead than the kids that pulled this stunt at my school. pure ignorance is flooding from your mouth. how are you going to say “the muslim students posting are foul mouthed?” first of all i’m not even muslim, and neither is 70 percent of our city you mock with the name “dearbornistan”?? and second of allim not foul mouth if i am stating my opinion on this bs controversy. besides ever heard of freedom of sppech? your name should be more along the lines of LOL because that is what i am doing to you right now. before you jump on debbies train of segregation how about you do a little of you own research. how about you meet an arab person for yourself? in my oppinion debbies article is just like the book mein kampf written by somebody who you most likely admire, Adolf Hitler. we fought against the Nazis, who would have thought we would soon be becoming them??.

    avery on January 6, 2010 at 12:50 am

Oh and this is a reply to you worry01. you ask what race islam was? indeed this is a shameful question that i a high school student knows. it is infact the same religion that believes Jesus Christ is one of mankinds greatest Prophits. since you are so ignorent and tend to beleive any information that is handed out to you, just like whats coming from debbie, i suppose you think that Islam is all “devil worship” or something insanely stupid that only a racist person would come up with to push aside the fact that there are actually many similarities between the bible, and the qur’an (the arabic bible). many narratives actually consist of the same basic events, figures, and even beleifs.

avery on January 6, 2010 at 12:06 am

I’m a senior at edsel ford and this whole controversial situation absolutely disgusts me! I’ve gone to school with Muslim children for 6 years and their behavior does not surprise me. They are always disrespectful and not thinking before they act. Now before I go any further I would like to add that these Yemen children have given people of all Muslim descent a bad name and have also made the students and staff ofedsel ford embarassed. You can have pride for your heritage but in public around people with different beliefs PLEASE PLEASE think about your actions because this was very offensiveto all Americans, not just the white people…

Disgusted. on January 6, 2010 at 12:11 am

hahahaahah, this debbie chick is to funny, she doesnt know anything

Warren on January 6, 2010 at 12:23 am

Well, the students just validated what Debbie has been saying all along about “Dearbornistan”. The Muslim students that have posted are foul-mouthed, unpleasant little people who will grow up to be violent, aggressive, big people – which is just what happened to the formerly pleasant countries of Europe. Of course the students weren’t going to do anything bad – yet. Yes, it’s pretty clear to me that all the so-called non-aggressive Muslims living in America are quietly supporting jihad in their own quiet ways. And to any ignorant liberals posting here, why on earth are you arguing with us? Were you not paying attention during the riots in France? Europe is increasingly surrendering its own culture and bowing to the mandates of Sharia law. Is that what you want for America? Where husbands can beat their wives and fathers can kill their daughters? Are you so liberal that you want your own children and grandchildren to be subjected to this kind of barbaric justice and way of life?

LRL on January 6, 2010 at 12:31 am

u r very ignorant and stupid probably dumber than the kids who made the sweatshirts first of all they r just adolescents that didn’t mean no offense to anybody by “glorifying 9/11” that is just ridiculous they went from 17 year old ignorant kids to TERRORISTS! is that what your trying to get at? Please tell me ole mighty smart one who makes up stuff she has no proof of because loui is just a nick name of one of those students because they all wrote their nick names on it!

loui on January 6, 2010 at 12:31 am

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