September 13, 2010, - 2:29 pm

Tim Gunn & the Diarrhea of TMI

By Debbie Schlussel

I used to like fashion/style guru Tim Gunn.  A childhood friend of mine directed some of his cable TV makeover shows, and unlike other gay personalities, he seems very professional and not so in your face about gay rights and politics.

But what a disappointment the man turned out to be.  This normally classy emir of good taste in savvy dressing has a new book out in which he’s struck by the virus that has sadly infected much of American pop culture:  the diarrhea of Too Much Information. In this case, the TMI isn’t even fact. It’s TMS–Too Much wild Speculation . . . meant to sell books.

Gunn’s father was an FBI Special Agent in Washington, DC. And, in “Gunn’s Golden Rules: Life’s Little Lessons for Making It Work,” Gunn accuses his father of having a gay affair with J. Edgar Hoover, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

Gunn writes that his father was a special FBI agent based in Washington. He was Hoover’s ghost writer for all of his speeches and books.

“I have no proof and I’m going to say right now, my mother would deny it up and down, and so too would many biographers of Hoover. I’m likely just totally wrong about this. But…The men were incredibly repressed. So even if they were sleeping together you can bet they never would have admitted it, even to themselves. He would have really beaten it back. He certainly wanted to knock it out of me, literally.”

Gunn calls his father possibly a “big closet case” and notes that most of his FBI colleagues committed suicide. His father was the only one of his group who died a natural death. The wives, Gunn says, were “barely functioning alcoholics.”

So, he has no proof. He admits it’s probably wrong. But, hey, put it in the book, anyway, because there’s no revenge like sullying your not-so-dear old dead dad and calling him gay, right?  Homo-misery especially loves company.

Hmmm . . . if even a fraction of this much-exaggerated fiction parading as memoir were true, we’d have a good case for repressed, gay, suicidal FBI agents with drunk wives, since in Hoover’s day, FBI agents were at their most professional and accomplished and have since become a group of Islamo-pandering lemmings in the Forever Buttkissing Islam bureaucracy.  (As I’ve previously noted, one of the FBI’s most self-cited “accomplishments” in contemporary times is the busting of the Unabomber, but that was done by his brother, not Famous But Incompetent.)

That’s not my point here, however, which is that Gunn’s father is dead. He isn’t around to defend himself. But that’s the way cowards do it these days. And it’s so sad that this style maven who instructs the rest of us to dress in good taste just doesn’t have any good taste himself.  And the most expensive haute couture designer cloths won’t change that.

Missing from Tim Gunn’s Golden Rules: Get some class before you tell everyone else to dress with it. Making up extremely hurtful stories about your dead father–with absolutely no evidence, just to sell books–is is far more gauche than sprayed on hot pink leather pants and a sequin tube top on Aretha Franklin or any other fashion faux pas.

Looking forward to the day when tell all shockers accusing your dead dad of having a gay affair with J. Edgar Hoover is out of style. Sadly, telling it all–and making it up if there’s nothing sleazy enough to tell–is all too much the current fad.  It’s disgusting, but the death of outrage at everything (except a Florida preacher threatening to burn the Koran) makes it not just acceptable, but all the rage.  As I write this, Gunn’s book is #38 on Amazon.com. If Tim Gunn’s father were alive, today, he could sue him for defamation for this utter libel, and he’d probably win.

How sad that so many are stricken with this man’s illness.  And it looks like our society is becoming more and more afflicted with the ethos of these sewer-dwellers with fame.

Tim Gunn, you are sadly in need of a makeover. And it’s not the kind you get with nicer clothes and a good haircut.

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Totally off-topic:

I am singing Games People Play (an oldie but a goodie) because I just read this article:

http://sfist.com/2010/09/09/iran_to_free_jailed_berkeley_grad_s.php

As goes on September 13, 2010 at 3:02 pm

So the poofter hated his macho FBI father. What a shocker. I’m sure his father was dissapointed in him, too. I must be living a good life since I’ve never heard of this jackass before.

Farmerjohn on September 13, 2010 at 3:58 pm

Maybe Mr. Gunn hangs around with Joan Crawford’s kids. I guess you can say anything after someone dies and they are not around to defend themselves. Maybe he made it up in his head to make himself feel better or something.

sharon on September 13, 2010 at 4:10 pm

@ Farmerjohn

…Ditto

ebayer on September 13, 2010 at 5:08 pm

As Rush says, “It fits the template.” I’m sure the book will make Oprah’s book club. Wasn’t there a book in the 70’s that claimed that the caveman who invented fire, Achilles, Agamemnon, Alexander, Caesar, Michelangelo, da Vinci, Newton, Napoleon, anyone-who-was-anyone etc, etc, etc were all gay?

Rick on September 13, 2010 at 5:17 pm

This guys a turd

Jason on September 13, 2010 at 5:51 pm

If Hoover wasn’t a closeted homosexual, he certainly conducted himself as if he were. But who really cares?

#1 Vato on September 13, 2010 at 6:17 pm

Well, as I don’t think being gay is bad, I’m not as bothered as Debbie is by Gunn’s wild speculation about his father. That said, why on earth should we care to read such speculation? I would also not care to read that Gunn suspects–without evidence–that he has long, lost Eskimo cousins.

As for Hoover, all I can say is that we need such effective people at the FBI of today. Clearly, though, being homosexual is no guarantee of effectiveness: Exhibit A being the Lesbionic Woman J-No.

skzion on September 13, 2010 at 6:52 pm

“TMI” should also be the name of that thoroughly obnoxious program that calls itself “TMZ.” Because that’s what it constantly gives out on a daily basis – TMI.

As for who over the years have cared about J. Edgar’s sexuality: Obviously, the cretins on the Left whose “thought processes” (or what passes for them) were and are fixated on group identity politics, where everybody in certain politically preferred groups (whether by race, gender, ethnicity or even sexual “orientation”) are obligated to unquestioningly support the leftist agenda to “prove” they’re “authentically” of whatever group they’re in.

ConcernedPatriot on September 13, 2010 at 7:59 pm

The “Hoover in Drag” accusations are so stale and unoriginal that it is amazing that Gunn even picked up on them. It is rather like someone claiming that “Disco” was a great new thing in 1990, long after the phenomenon had exhausted itself. Also, as Debbie has said, Timmy decided to do this garbage after his father was dead, which should put up more than a few red flags. Tim Gunn seems to be insecure and paranoid about his homosexualiity, and thus finds the need to project it on to others in order to validate himself. Abraham Lincoln went through this meatgrinder not too long ago when it was discovered that she shared a bed with men. The little fact that was not revealed was that even families and borders commonly did that, since such furniture was expensive, there was no central heating, and it was far preferable to flopping on a dirt or hardwood floor. The Lincoln was gay mania began to die down when memoirs from those who knew him personally documented his having frequented brothels at least before he was married to Miss Todd. Mr. Lincoln’s early political opponents even referred to him as a “whore master”, which would be a rather strange moniker for someone who preferred the company of males. Mr. Gunn is simply trying to spruce up what would otherwise be a dumpster ready book by inserting what he himself admits to be garbage.

Worry01 on September 13, 2010 at 9:13 pm

Well, I’m disappointed too. Because heaving watched way too much of Project Runway than I care to admit to my football loving friends, I’ve come to respect Gunn, for being forthright with his critiques and not petty, and for dressing really, really sharp in an era when it’s some kind of badge of honor to dress like crap. But, if it’s speculation, then leave it out. I was going to say that he needed an better editor, but then I started thinking, maybe his book publisher thought that the book was too bland and insisted that he do something to spice it up. I can speculate too: I have absolutely no evidence to support this, but my father was born the same year that Tutakammen’s tomb was discovered, so it wouldn’t surprise me if my father was the reincarnation of Tutakammen.

Debbie, I think that the problem is that you’re an attorney and you think like an attorney. And two of the most effective objections are “relevance” and “speculation.” But outside the courtroom, among the not-so-great unwashed, irrelevance and sheer speculation sell.

I still like Tim Gunn. I think he was poorly served by his publisher, and I think that he should have used his better judgment and good taste and vetoed the whole idea.

That being said, J. Edgar Hoover – gay or not, communist fighter that he was – was a contemptuous person. By force of will (and blackmail) he may have created the world’s finest law enforcement agency, but that’s not to say that a more noble person couldn’t have done that just as well. Organized crime ran amuck until it was so obvious that Hoover could no longer pretend it didn’t exist.

gmartinz on September 13, 2010 at 9:59 pm

Son of a Gunn!

Drugcommish on September 13, 2010 at 10:18 pm

Hoover is a stellar example of a man who outlived his usefulness by decades. His career should have ended in the mid 30s with the end of prohibition and the deaths of John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde and Baby Face Nelson. By the mid 1960s, he had become nothing but a pathetic parody of himself, spending more time collecting files on harmless lefty folk singers (Joan Baez, Phil Ochs etc) while completely ignoring the mob.

Incidentally, until reading this article, I had never heard the name Tim Gunn before. I also know nothing about the Kardashians, Lady Gaga and The Jersey Shore, other than the fact that they are all apparently popular television attractions that other people enjoy. I guess I’m one of those Americans who is in several different minorities in that respect…and proudly so.

Irving on September 14, 2010 at 2:43 am

Let’s just start with the facts: Hoover was gay. Gunn Sr. worked closely with Hoover. This is motive and opportunity. Gunn Jr. is speculating and says so. He says he has no proof. He knew his dad better than anyone other than his mom.

Not sure I see the big deal here.

gorp from corp on September 14, 2010 at 8:35 am

Awww, poor little Timmy-boy. What’s his problem? Didn’t his daddy pay enough attention to him when he was a kid? Or did his mommy make him dress up in tutus and paint his room pink? Or maybe he cross dressed GI Joe with his Barbie collection. This all just wild ass speculation, but it is just as valid as what this queer boy wrote about his dad. Debbie is so right, this guy is just out to make a buck.

Why are all of these flamers always in our faces about their sexuality? How many people are out there outing gay people as being normal heterosexual straight people ke – I am straight, but that queer over there, I think he is actually straight.

Jarhead on September 14, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Sorry, what I meant to post was:

    Awww, poor little Timmy-boy. What’s his problem? Didn’t his daddy pay enough attention to him when he was a kid? Or did his mommy make him dress up in tutus and paint his room pink? Or maybe he cross dressed GI Joe with his Barbie collection.
    This all just wild ass speculation, but it is just as valid as what this queer boy wrote about his dad. Debbie is so right, this guy is just out to make a buck.

    Why are all of these flamers always in our faces about their sexuality? How many people are out there outing gay people as being normal heterosexual straight people saying things like – ‘I am straight, but that queer over there, I think he is actually straight.’ How many books are there out there outing gays as being straight?

    Jarhead on September 14, 2010 at 9:52 am

Goebbels would be so proud.
The lie about Hoover being gay has been spread and repeated so often that now it is accepted as fact.
Hoover was NOT gay.
There was never any evidence that he was gay. The entire story was made up after he died to smear the great man.
The people that claim he was gay had axes to grind against him.
and ALL of the stories came out after Hoover was dead so he wasn’t able to refute them.

If fact there was never even a whisper about Hoover being gay during his entire life. How do you keep something like that under wraps for 60 years. You can’t.
Many of the people making the claims probably never even meet him, much less saw him in drag or had sex with him.

smg45acp on September 14, 2010 at 9:43 am

    smg45acp: “there was never even a whisper about Hoover being gay during his entire life. How do you keep something like that under wraps for 60 years?”

    There’s an extremely easy answer to that question. He died in 1972, and it wasn’t until the mid 80s that it became commonplace to publicly discuss the sexual peccadilloes of public figures. Not only was there no talk at all about JFK’s now legendary heterosexual shenanigans during his lifetime, but also for a good fifteen to twenty years afterwards.

    Irving on September 14, 2010 at 1:03 pm

What really bothers me is that this guy disgraced his Mother and Father to make a buck. He’s obviously not Jewish or Christian, but that obviously breaks 2 of the Ten Commandments (Honor Parents and Bearing False Witness).

I think that his Father was an Alpha Male who had real problems with his son’s homosexuality. Mr. Poofster waited until he was dead and gor even by trying to ruin his father’s name.

Hopefully there is a special spot in Hell for slime like this.

jimmyPx on September 14, 2010 at 10:27 am

jimmyPx, if the father really was a stinker to Tim, I’m suddenly slightly (only slightly) sympathetic to the son. Parents have responsibilities too.

Jarhead, you say,

“How many people are out there outing gay people as being normal heterosexual straight people saying things like – ‘I am straight, but that queer over there, I think he is actually straight.’ How many books are there out there outing gays as being straight?”

Dude, there was, and is, a whole industry centered on protecting the closets of the rich and famous! Some of the results have been hilarious. For example, for years, Liberace was defended as being straight! The reason why outing was effective was because it acted against the closet industry.

skzion on September 14, 2010 at 6:36 pm

I’d rather have J. Edgar in an evening gown and feathered boa than whatever it is we have now.

The day after Pearl Harbor FBI agents scooped up every Nazi and Japanese agent in America, thousands in one swoop. This is in the days before sophisticated surveillance equipment. They had a fix on everyone, every organization, saboteurs,etc.etc.
It is still breathtaking to study. The day after 9/11? That was Hoover in his heyday.

DAN on September 14, 2010 at 7:54 pm

Dan, well that’s pretty darn funny: “The day after Pearl Harbor FBI agents scooped up every Nazi and Japanese agent in America, thousands in one swoop.” So let me see if I get this straight: there were THOUSANDS of Nazi and Japanese agents in the United States before December 7, 1941. The FBI knew who they were, where they lived and what they did. Nevertheless, they were permitted to move freely and without question throughout the United States, so effectively, that as to the Japanese agents, they were able to provide accurate intelligence to their warlord handlers in Tokyo RIGHT UNDER THE NOSES OF THE FBI, such that one-half of the United States battleship fleet was sunk/incapacitated in one day, within the span of a few hours. Is this what you’re trying to say? If that’s so, then off with Hoover’s head . . . unless of course, what really happened was that an incompetent and ignorant Hoover simply ordered the arrest and detention of as many German and Japanese nationals as he could, in order to save face and his job. That is SOOOOOOOO gay.

gmartinz on September 14, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Duh, gmartinz, has it occurred to you that Hoover was not a czar, and there were countervailing forces like, say, a substantial German population in the US?

    Let’s compare Hoover with Freeh and then Mueller.

    Hoover was also a rare bird in the Executive Branch because he was acting against Communism. There, too, he was in constant battle.

    Perhaps if we had fewer anti-American (or just incompetent) bureaucrats and politicians, things would be better. No one man can prevail over a host of clowns in our system.

    skzion on September 15, 2010 at 12:54 am

On a professional note, I don’t think Gunn has done much for the Liz Claiborn brand either. Could this have anything to do with the upcoming movie of Hoover? Make it work!

FeFe on September 24, 2010 at 9:12 am

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