December 8, 2010, - 5:03 pm

Sick of Hearing About John Lennon: His Devastating War on America

By Debbie Schlussel

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Is it just me . . . or are you sick of hearing about John Lennon and his death 30 years ago, this week?  Please, Make It Stop.

I wish Mark David Chapman hadn’t shot him–not because I care a whit about Lennon, but because instead of being beatified and sainted, John Lennon, today, would be just another wealthy, aging, crotchety anti-war has-been denouncing conservative values and whining about “oppressed” Islamic terrorists.  The only thing I think of when I hear the words, “John Lennon,” is some smelly, stupid bed-in stunt by two annoying hirsute morons.   And that’s not to mention their hideous nude photos.  Um, TMI before there even was “TMI.”  (My mind needs to be Lysol-ed, just thinking about their gimmicks.)  John Lennon–who cares?  Not me.

If Only John Lennon’s War On America Was Over; Sadly, It Didn’t Die With Him

He called himself “anti-war,” but John Lennon’s war on America was one of the most damaging to our nation, not in the cost of lives, but at a cost far more long-lasting. The guy’s great “contributions” to the Western world were glorifying the sexual revolution and drug use, both of which led to the greatest problems facing America today in the breakdown of our society on all fronts:  families, education, and America’s place in the world.  The counterculture he helped lead destroyed America.  Not sure why that’s anything to celebrate.

And, no, I don’t remember where I was when the guy got shot.  I only remember where I was when Ronald Reagan got shot. One man was great and freed major parts of the world.  The other had scraggly long hair and was exchanging bodily fluids with a self-important gadfly guru-ette, named Yoko.

On top of all that, John Lennon was a phony. He was a limousine liberal who lived in a fancy New York Dakota apartment and lived like a king, while preaching about a world with no possessions or greed. Funny, he wrote that song under the tutelage of one of the most material women in the world, multi-millionairess/near-billionairess Yoko Ono. The Ono-Lennons were the most capitalist anti-capitalists ever. And they laughed at you all the way to the bank. They might have been naked as they did it (another of their attention-getting, sleazy marketing stunts), but they laughed at you, nonetheless. And Yoko is still laughing in her Barney’s designer clothes. Imagine, indeed.

Sorry, but while the guy was a talented musician and songwriter (as were all of The Beatles), that’s about it.  Lennon wasn’t a saint.  He wasn’t a genius.  And he’s not an important part of history in any way.  Not even close.  John Lennon may be important to aging baby boomers in remembering their pot-smoking, free-love days.  But when they’re gone, hopefully, he’ll have no place in history.  There’s just nothing historic about Lennon or anything he did.  Nothing good or important, anyway.

Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away;

Plus I didn’t have to hear about “Saint” John Lennon every single second of the day;

Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Oh, wait, he didn’t even write that one. Correction:

Imagine all the morons;

It’s easy if you try;

They’re still mourning my death, 30 years later;

While Yoko lives it up and laughs at them in her apartment in the sky;

Imagine there’s no countries;

It isn’t hard to do;

Nothing to kill or die for;

Unless Yoko’s litigating my copyrights in court.

To all the John Lennon fans still worshiping this glorified street urchin, time to wake up to the fact that your long-dead idol was nothing more than an empty hirsute. Move on.

*** UPDATE: Twitter follower GiborahGirl tweets:

John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. What would happen if he said that today about mohammad of islam?

Well, he’d never say it, so we don’t have to guess. He’d be among those kissing Muslim ass. He was just that kind of idiot.

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John Lennon, a wannabe pacifist idiot, is still forgettable!

NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 5:43 pm

I was just a little kid living in Wisconsin in 1980. I came home to watch “The Flintstones” after school but instead I was seeing crying people on my tv set. I didn’t know or understand what was going on then. John Lennon may have been a great musician but Yoko wasn’t. Her “music” can be described as her yelling into a microphone for hours on end.
Also,you mixed up John Lennon’s murder with the attempted murder of Ronald Reagan. Mark David Chapman was inspired by the book “Catcher in the Rye” and had a myriad of mental problems before he ever shot Lennon.

Ghostwriter on December 8, 2010 at 5:45 pm

The week of mourning over Lennon’s death (and yes, I was at a bookstore when the “minute of silence” was blared over the speakers the Sunday after he died – wish I hadn’t remembered, but alas I have something of a photographic memory), and the media’s beatification over him and the whole “he was a man of peace” (yada yada yada) party line, was unfortunately a template for the way the media would treat the deaths of other marginally-talented celebrities in the future (think all the mindless worship over Michael Jackson after his death, for example, never mind that his works up to 1982 were the longest lasting). Of course, since the media by and large was (and, in the years since, has become even more so) anti-American, anti-military and pro-appeasement, it figures that they would have gushed over Lennon as if he were some kind of important historical figure a la Gandhi or Dr. King.

The other thing – while Lennon from time to time wore a beard, Yoko was the actual “beard” in the relationship – a precursor of the likes of Brad Jolie-Pitt and Tom Bündchen-Brady. In fact, after marrying Yoko, he legally changed his name to John Ono Lennon – again, prefiguring those other two.

Oh, and Chapman was the one who, prior to offing Lennon, had read “Catcher in the Rye” by another dubious figure whose own true destructive legacy to our culture has likewise been documented by Debbie upon his death – J.D. Salinger. The shooting to please Ms. (ahem) Foster was of Reagan by Hinckley.

ConcernedPatriot on December 8, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Debbie didn’t mention it in her article, but you have it pegged! Yoko was the man in the relationship and Lennon would have gotten nowhere without her at his side – or is that the other way around? Like I said, I didn’t really care then and don’t care now.

    NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    The shooting to please Ms. (ahem) Foster was of Reagan by Hinckley.

    ConcernedPatriot on December 8, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Reply

    Why the “ahem?”

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 2:53 am

      Because of what has been written (including on this site) about Jodie Foster’s lesbianism.

      Oh, and who could forget Lennon’s appearance c.1972 on David Frost’s short-lived U.S. talk show (another lefty who, when last heard from, was a contributor to al-Jazeera a.k.a. the Terrorist News Network), when he was defending, justifying and apologizing for cop killers – and got into a heated argument with a relative of one slain police officer (this, from my recollections)?

      ConcernedPatriot on December 9, 2010 at 7:07 am

        Because of what has been written (including on this site) about Jodie Foster’s lesbianism.

        O.K.

        Miranda Rose Smith on December 10, 2010 at 1:50 am

        Oh, and who could forget Lennon’s appearance c.1972 on David Frost’s short-lived U.S. talk show… when he was defending, justifying and apologizing for cop killers – and got into a heated argument with a relative of one slain police officer (this, from my recollections)?

        While cops protected him Barf!

        ConcernedPatriot on December 9, 2010 at 7:07 am

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        Miranda Rose Smith on December 10, 2010 at 4:20 am

Who apart from the Left cares about Lennon? If you never heard of him, you’re in good company. I was a teen then and I thought it wasn’t big news at the time…. and still isn’t 30 years later.

NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 5:49 pm

Yup… just like he kissed Communist ass back then. The counterculture, which he embodied, its loathing of America and identification with its enemies is the one thing that will never change.

Count on it!

NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 5:56 pm

My theory is that Mark David Chapman was aiming at Yoko and missed. She was more annoying than Lennon.

Why is Mark David Chapman still in prison in NY? Cop killers, including wealthy members of the Weather Underground, got out of prison after serving only 20 years in prison? I guess Chapman should have either been wealthy or shot a cop instead of a celebrity. He would have been walking the streets of NY now.

Do I really advocate his release? My point is there is a double standard when a hard working decent American is killed, versus when a celebrity is killed or stared at.

Jgrant on December 8, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Jon, its funny how celebrities get special treatment when they commit a crime and when they’re the victims of one.

    Lady Justice has never been and will never be truly blind!

    NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 6:18 pm

What a hateful article. On the anniversary of the day a father and husband gets brutally murdered you trash him.

Mike on December 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm

    The UK today is very much the society that Lennon desired. It is religionless, except for the obvious, it has a sub-replacement birth rate because it hates kids, and it has an exceptionally high suicide rate. What John Lennon knew about human beings could be fit into Rahm Emanuel’s truncated finger.

    It may be hateful, but so was he. Apparently, he wanted a picture of Adolf Hitler on the cover of Sgt. Pepper’s.

    Occam's Tool on December 8, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Yes, Mao was a father and husband, as was Joseph Stalin. Does that make them wonderful men beyond all critcism? You might try getting your own life in order rather than worshipping dead celebrities as gods. Also, Debbie did note his talent as a musician. Debbie also stated that she had no desire to see Mr. Lennon die at the hands of Chapman Instead of responding hysterically to something you have barely read, you might try rereading the post and coming up with a genuine criticism of it in terms of its accuracy. Calling an article hateful without providing any support for your position is simply an example of an adult having a tantrum, and nothing more.

    Worry01 on December 8, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    Hateful?….think not – a father who it appears didnt give a damn about his kids…Debbie has painted a very accurate picture of him!

    BIG IRISH on December 8, 2010 at 11:21 pm

    Mike: Please re-read the article. Maybe read it a couple of times. slowly. Perhaps it would be even better if you had someone read it to you. Apparently you missed the point of the article.

    elba liava on December 9, 2010 at 1:52 am

John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Princess Di, Elvis, all lowlife scum that we were force fed the constant mourning by the media. Yesterday I was like WTF with Mrs. Edwards, on every news station. Boo effing hoo, her husband cheated on her while she was suffering from breast cancer. I really liked it better when I was a kid and we got our TV news in small doses. Now they have all this air time and they fill it up with a lot of useless crap.

Davida on December 8, 2010 at 6:21 pm

Off topic: Here’s a more interesting celebrity on which the FBI has an APB out on. No – its not a living person! Its a video camera-equipped Barbie.

The doll Debbie had as a girl. I kid you not! Here’s what she looks like:

Some girls have all the fun! ;-)

NormanF on December 8, 2010 at 6:29 pm

The Beatles were a pretty good garage band who missed their true vocation of playing at wedding receptions and high school proms. Anyone who takes any of those vapid fellows seriously would also buy into WAITING FOR GODOT and global warming.

Mack on December 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    garage band?….what planet do yu come from?

    BIG IRISH on December 8, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Anyone who takes any of those vapid fellows seriously would also buy into WAITING FOR GODOT and global warming.

    Mack on December 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm

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    I read Waiting for Godot in high school and it bored me to screaming tears. By the way, have you heard about the new play opening soon on Broadway> It’s a surrealistic theatre of the absurd play about a stormy depression era union meeting. It’s called Waiting for Lefty Godot:)

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 6:37 am

I agree with Mark. It was a very hateful article.

Allen on December 8, 2010 at 6:36 pm

To add to the damage he did to society, he gave Yoko legitimacy. And there are still people who take her seriously as an artist.

Harry on December 8, 2010 at 6:39 pm

Isn’t it odd that John chose to form Sean into his own image – when the son he ignored, Julian, is the one who has the talent.

that gaseous always disgusted me. Like a previous poster wrote – here’s a guy who along with his wife waltzed around dressed in combat gear
spouting off about war, peace and no possessions while living it up in the Dakota.

Funny how all those scumbags hanging out at Strawberry Fields today don’t have a clue that Yoko did not contribute a dime toward her own husband’s memorial.

The really sad part is – he was the most controversial of the Beatles but also the least talented – by far. Paul, George and Ringo did not need politics or promotional stunts to sell records.

But then – Look at Paul’s comments about Bush when visiting Obama. Guess his popularity has hit the skids as well – maybe that’s why his CD’s haven’t gotten any airplay for years and are sold at Starbucks.

Sorry for the rambling post.

pi on December 8, 2010 at 7:20 pm

He was just a working class bloke who played the guitar, and made it big. Nothing more/nothing less. He lived for 40-years and has been dead for 30. It is terrible that a husband and father of two was robbed of his life. His politics and mine may have differed, but I did enjoy (and still do) his music. May the poor bastard rest in peace.

#1 Vato on December 8, 2010 at 7:22 pm

BRA-Voh! This was a great post!!

Lennon was such a hypocrite. The only one who surpasses him is the supreme hypocrite Yoko Ono.

Imagine her hating war…she was battle-ready for John’s first son Julian.

Skunky on December 8, 2010 at 8:17 pm

[The really sad part is – he was the most controversial of the Beatles but also the least talented – by far.
pi on December 8, 2010 at 7:20 pm]

Pi, you are f*cking stupid. Lennon was the brains behind many of their best songs and the band’s leader.

[DS:He wasn’t a genius. And he’s not an important part of history in any way.]

Yes John Lennon was a genius and an important part of history in the same way as Shakespeare or Beethoven. I dread days like these because they bring out the absolute worst in the soulless and mindless American conservative.

Norman Blitzer on December 8, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    No he wasn’t a genius. it’s obvious that without him The Beatles would not have become as famous. He added spice to the lyrics.

    “Least talented” is not an insult. If you put John Lennon in the same room with Segovia, Irving Berlin and Miles Davis, he would be the least talented. There were four Beatles – Lennon had talent but harrision was far superior as a guitarist. Ringo Starr had more successful career. Paul? C’mon can you really compare Paul’s chops with John’s? Paul spent many years as a Beatle learning studio techniques, arrangements, orchestrations from Geroge martin. Lord knows what Lennon was doing at the time.

    As far as history goes – was it historical? Yep – in a pop culture sort of way. but like the babbling idiot on the radio this morning who compared Lennon’s death with Kennedy’s assassination and the bombing of Pearl harbor – that’s beyond delusional.

    Worshipping rock stars is a rite of passage when your a teen.

    In your 20’s it’s quirky and endearing in an ironic, hipster sort of way.

    In your thirties and on it’s sad, pathetic and creepy.

    Oh and let’s stop usijng the word Genius with such careless disregard. Einstein, Mozart and Da Vinci were geniouses. Lennon had talent and that’s about it.

    pi on December 8, 2010 at 9:34 pm

      Worshipping rock stars is a rite of passage when your a teen.

      I still remember-getting on to 29 years ago-how the day turned black, with denial and disillusionment for me-when I heard that Joan Baez had dumped her draft-dogger husband.

      Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:01 am

        I still remember-getting on to 29 years ago-how the day turned black, with denial and disillusionment for me-when I heard that Joan Baez had dumped her draft-dodger husband.
        Freudian slip, folks!

        Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:05 am

          I still remember-getting on to 39 years ago-how the day turned black, with denial and disillusionment for me-when I heard that Joan Baez had dumped her draft-dodger husband.
          Freudian slip, folks!
          Another Freudian slip, folks. I can’t admit how time is fling!

          Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:05 am

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          Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:33 am

          I still remember-getting on to 39 years ago-how the day turned black, with denial and disillusionment for me-when I heard that Joan Baez had dumped her draft-dodger husband.
          Freudian slip, folks!
          Another Freudian slip, folks. I can’t admit how time is flying!

          Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:05 am

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          Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:33 am
          After all these years, the memory of that moment is so painful for me, I couldn’t do simple arithmatic while re-living it.

          Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 3:36 am

With Debbie on this.

Duck on December 8, 2010 at 9:02 pm

John Lennon was a sarcastic scouser, a typical middleclass kid from North West of England, arrogant dickead who had some talent to conjure up dittys based on the musical flavour of the day. They had a great time as the Beatles, like the rest of them in those days, “Running here there and every were, in vans doing one night stands”, Then they had a break, and the money flowed in, were they could sit on there arses all day “money for nothing and your chicks for free”, drumming up more dittys all day long. They are not in the same leauge as the classics or Shakespeare! Lennon was a hypocrite, as are they all, 3 are still alive and living there self centred capatilist life style. Yoko is a typical rich bitch talentless strange looking women who simply got lucky back then. Please lets not make them more then what they are. Yes they had some talent Yes they made the most of it for there personal wealth endo of !

steve woodruff on December 8, 2010 at 9:43 pm

    Well said SW.

    Blitzer is his usual bizarro-world self.

    Yeah, Lennon had talent, but he is my least favourite musically.

    I like the solo work of McCartney, Starr and Harrison far better than The Beatles. Especially McCartney’s “Wings”. Right now Harrison is my second favourite but I used to love Ringo best. Lennon comes in last for me. Love “Mind Games” and “Jealous Guy” and a few others, but feh…rather the others.

    Skunky on December 8, 2010 at 9:50 pm

Lennon was as every bit of a genius as Mozart and Da Vinci. Lennon didn’t just right songs, he wrote some of the best songs ever like ‘A Day in the Life’ and ‘Imagine’. If a person can just write one good song in his life, he has accomplished something. Lennon/McCartney wrote over a hundred great songs.

Ringo Starr was more talented and had a more successful career than Lennon? Please, it’s you nasty right-wingers who are living in bizarro world not me!

Norman Blitzer on December 8, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    Blitzer, you are so sick in the head. Where the hell did I say that Ringo Star was more of a genius? RIF, dhimmi-dummy.

    I merely stated that I PREFERRED the music of Ringo Starr to boring, old, dead John Lennon. You always let your intolerant, totalitarian ways show, moronic moonbat.

    I don’t think Lennon was a genius. His stuff is good, but nothing beyond that. I tend to like The Beatles solo stuff better than The Beatles stuff, with Lennon being my least favourite. Wanna put me in the gulag for that Nobrain Blitzer? Yeah, just like a good Commie would. America is still free, go suck on it NB!

    Skunky on December 9, 2010 at 12:23 pm

“He had a ticket to ride (to any country but here!) but he didn’t care” because “He was a day tripper, one way ticket yeah” (yeah, to some country other than this one!); if he would have just “Got back to where he once belonged” it would have been a healthy thing for this country!

CornCoLeo on December 8, 2010 at 10:18 pm

Take my word for it Schlussel, if you had been a teenager in 1964, this would read entirely differently. The proof? Go back and look at your ridiculously respectful obituary of Michael Jackson (who DID peak when you were a teenager).

You’ve made it very clear that you hate the “feminization of the modern male” almost as much as you hate Islamic terrorists. Yeah, during the last five years of his life, Lennon did become a (gasp) house husband, but are you really going to compare that with what was going on during the last TWENTY years of (the ultimate she-male) Michael Jackson’s life?

I understand that it’s natural for most people to prefer the music of whatever period happened to be the happiest in their lives, but in this case, you’ve allowed it to completely cloud your judgement beyond sanity.

Furthermore, your remark about nothing Lennon did being of any historic importance is just plain lunacy. Just as people continue to marvel at Rhapsody In Blue some 86 years after it was written, and 73 years after the death of Gershwin, I assure you that a century from now, people will still be walking down the street humming “Strawberry Fields Forever” and “Across The Universe.”

I also assure you that NOBODY will be humming “Beat It” or “Billie Jean,” not because of any of Michael Jackson’s moral lapses, but for the simple reason that they are completely tuneless.

Irving on December 8, 2010 at 11:13 pm

DISCLOSURE: I was born around the time the Beatles broke.

I took their music for granted because it was there.

I never thought they were ever great because of their talent – only George Harrison (bless his soul) appeared to me the most professional of the lot – but because of the marketing savvy of Brian Epstein.

(BTW – He was to Lennon what Mr. Herbert was to Chris Griffin in the “Family Guy”. Think about it, eh?)

All of Lennon’s songs in his solo carrer sucked except for “Whatever Gets You Through The Night” (muchas gracias, Elton).

I (figuratively) shed more tears for George Harrison, the 9-11 victims, my ex’s mom and my father (Of Blessed Memory. Amen) than I did for Lennon (to whom I shed a couple as a sign of respect).

Mark David Chapman now represents more of a threat to himself than to anyone with a pulse and synapses. Back then I thought he should fry – murder is murder, anyway – but then I don’t care.

I wouldn’t blame Lennon for destroying Western Civilization as We Know It – the post-WWII/-“Cold” War complacency of the constantly satiated masses took care of that – but he deserves neither beatification nor deification.

Lennon was just a man with a guitar, attitude and ideals, chained to a wife with Lady MacBeth ambitions, who managed to make a lot of money for what he did and what he became.

Nothing special. Nothing terrible. The rest of us will just keep living.

Rest In Peace, Eggman.

The Reverend Jacques on December 9, 2010 at 12:08 am

I like John Lennon… Good thing I was not into politics at all back then. LOL I might have made the difference.

sharon on December 9, 2010 at 1:46 am

On top of all that, John Lennon was a phony. He was a limousine liberal who lived in a fancy New York Dakota apartment and lived like a king, while preaching about a world with no possessions or greed.

You took the words right off my keyboard.

Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 1:50 am

Debbie you are by far the leader of the pack when it comes to stories like this one about Lennon. I haven’t heard anyone, anywhere on TV or radio, liberal or conservative, do anything other then praise him and recall his greatness. No one has had the courage to take his hypocrisy to task; his expensive home and all the other things that he decries in his songs but in reality he gobbles up greedily. I can remember very distinctly where I was when he was shot. I was in the Republic of Korea, probably standing watch, again, and hoping that the N. Koreans were going to be quiet for the evening and not cause us to go on alert.

kenny komodo on December 9, 2010 at 1:57 am

A few more points on the subject of JWL… he beat both his wives (yes – do the research), sexually harassed May Pang and told his friends he would fire her from his office to get rid of her from his life, heroin abuser, cheated on both wives, had to be treated for STD numerous times, mentally and emotionally abused his youngest son Sean (check “John” by Cynthia Lennon), abandoned his eldest son Julian as his father had abandoned him, appeared in a film naked with Yoko’s young daughter Kyoko – who loathed him and told the judge she did not want to live with him…there is more, but I’ll close with an observation that for a self-professed “working class hero” he lived one **** of an opulent lifestyle.

Pamela on December 9, 2010 at 2:03 am

Did John Lennon ever vote in his life? (No)
What was his highest educational credential? (High School diploma)

Tony on December 9, 2010 at 2:07 am

If you think John Lennon’s rendition of “Imagine” is bad, listen to Ray Charles’s rendition of it sometime.
FOR THE RECORD, Paul McCartney, like Elton John and like Madonna, DID reisist pressure from anti-Semites and self-hating Jews and give a concert in Israel. I made a point of thanking all of them, either via their websites or, in Madonna’s case, via a a letter, sent c/o her agent.

Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 2:38 am

To “wealthy, aging, crotchety anti-war has-been denouncing conservative values and whining about “oppressed” Islamic terrorists” could we add the British words “and irritating scouse scumbag”?
Actually, he would long have publicly converted to the religion of peace by now, and written some boring songs about it.

Preposteroso on December 9, 2010 at 6:28 am

While I don’t care a whit for Lennon’s knee-jerk radicalism, many, many music lovers across the world agree that he wrote some of the most important popular music in the last 100 years. Lennon/McCartney are up there with Irving Berlin, Cole Porter, Gershwin, Richard Rodgers, Bacharach, etc.
If we don’t separate the work of artists from their personal lives, who would be left? Debbie, that’s what the left does: they try to devalue great people by slamming them for their personal lives. Try to mentioning Thomas Jefferson in any public school today and the first response will be: “he owned slaves” so he can be dismissed – and everything he ever did.
I prefer to look at a person’s life as a whole and weigh their contributions against their personal flaws. As the Psalmist said: “if Thou were to regard all our sins, who could stand before Thee?”

Jake on December 9, 2010 at 7:15 am

    If we don’t separate the work of artists from their personal lives, who would be left?

    True. Look at how both Byron and Dickens treated their wives.

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 10, 2010 at 1:55 am

Who ??

Shootist on December 9, 2010 at 7:40 am

I never could figure out the worship of the Beatles. The
early Rolling Stones were much more to my taste, the Beach
Boys were much better in my “hateful conservative” opinion.
I would admit that John Lennon had talent as a writer, but
to compare him to Beethoven, Mozart, William Shakespeare is
about as silly as it gets.

John really ruined himself with Yoko, but that was his choice.
Chapman was a loser and it’s a shame he killed John, but all
this adoration over this guy is typical of our celebrity worshipping culture. Cousin Brucie on satellite radio yesterday got so carried away with his praise of Lennon that
I about ran off the road. Talk about vapid.

Daniel K on December 9, 2010 at 7:48 am

I prefer to remember John Lennon as he was at his death, that being the John who had dropped out to spent 5 years being a devoted husband and father and emerged having written some of the most beautiful songs about love and family ever written from “Beautiful Boy” to “Woman.”

Revolution? LOL. Lennon died a wealthy family-values conservative capitalist!

Joe on December 9, 2010 at 8:14 am

Does the media have to constantly bring these people back into the news? I can’t wait for the 100th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, the 150th anniversary Of Michael Jackson’s death, the 200th anniversary of “Princess” Diana’s death, etc…..ad nauseum.

2011 will mark the 220th anniversary of the death of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Will the mediamorons take notice? Nah. Too busy wondering of Ho-pra is a lesbian!

Herbster on December 9, 2010 at 8:55 am

[I would admit that John Lennon had talent as a writer, but
to compare him to Beethoven, Mozart, William Shakespeare is
about as silly as it gets.
Daniel K on December 9, 2010 at 7:48 am]

Then you are either a complete idiot, a right-wing assh*le or both. Lennon/McCartney are the most successful song writers in the modern era if not all time. And they changed history.

[If you think John Lennon’s rendition of “Imagine” is bad, listen to Ray Charles’s rendition of it sometime.

Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 2:38 am]

Miranda, you are a complete idiot, period! No one thinks Lennon’s rendition of ‘Imagine’ is bad and Charles’s rendition is pretty good.

Norman Blitzer on December 9, 2010 at 11:55 am

    [If you think John Lennon’s rendition of “Imagine” is bad, listen to Ray Charles’s rendition of it sometime.

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 9, 2010 at 2:38 am]

    Miranda, you are a complete idiot, period! No one thinks Lennon’s rendition of ‘Imagine’ is bad and Charles’s rendition is pretty good.

    Norman Blitzer on December 9, 2010 at 11:55 am

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    Difference of opinion is what makes horse racing. “Imagine” is a silly pop song and Ray Charles gimicks it up with heavenly choirs. I hate his rendition.

    Miranda Rose Smith on December 10, 2010 at 4:32 am

As much as I love the music of the 1960’s, I do believe that whole era is what screwed up this country and maybe for good. We can’t worship Jesus, but the likes of Indian gurus are okay. All the drugs and boozing, all the sex and immorality, the dumbing down of America and its children, now adults. The lack of respect for everyone. Not just John Lennon’s fault, but the whole gang of now aging rock stars.

That whole attitude is why we are such bad shape today. Not only morally, but this lack of a moral compass lead in part to the financial crash and all the other problems we’re having.

Were it not for all the druggies and anti-establishment culture America experienced, we may not have had the housing collapse, political correctness, appeasing our enemies, overly expensive healthcare and lawyers trying to make everything harder with new lawsuits and laws designed to make everything cost more, while entire departments have to deal with the records-keeping and paperwork.

And heaven help anyone that doesn’t do it right. This is why we have to accept every screwed up idea and opinion because “there is no right or wrong.”

I also didn’t like how the anniversary of John Lennon’s death overshadowed Pearl Harbor Day.

John on December 9, 2010 at 11:57 am

I agree with John, also the Rev who praised “Whatever Gets You Through The Night” (I forgot about that gem!) and Pamela’s post was pretty interesting.

One night I awoke to AM Coast o Coast and May Pang was the guest. I always dismissed her on Howard Stern, but her interview was very interesting.

I hate blatant hypocrites and it’s hard to get exciting about some old, dead, smelly hippy when their music was just ok and like most Liberals, he was such a hypocrite, one loses all respect for them.

Skunky on December 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm

I agree. A limo liberal whose only real accomplishment was to be a member of the iconic boy band of the early TV era. I’m always amazed at adults, especially grown men, who still make such a big deal about any of them or the band as a whole.

Dan on December 9, 2010 at 12:59 pm

And here I thought I was the only one who didn’t much care for him when he was alive and certainly have no thoughts about him now. Yes, it is sad that he died the way he did, but I’m in total agreement with you Debbie. Let’s commemorate the heroes, the men who have given their lives so that might be safe.

Naomi Romm on December 9, 2010 at 1:27 pm

LOL… obviously none of you get it.

Was he an historical figure? Well, would you consider Beethoven an historical figure?

Did he hate America? No, he hated war. Remember, he was in his prime during the Vietnam war. Ask yourselves if Vietnam was a just war. Or ask if it was a necessary war? If you answer “no” to any of them, then you can understand what he was against.

John Lennon touched more lives than any politician, preacher, banker or loudmouth blogger ever could.

GeeWhiz on December 9, 2010 at 1:44 pm

We are only 20 months away from the 15 year anniversary of Princess Di’s death. We’ll all get to hear again of how she was the “People’s Princess” and was against AIDS and land mines. The courage!

GianniV on December 9, 2010 at 2:49 pm

Ridiculous and hilarious that some deny Lennon’s genius.

Just the fact that this has generated 80+ comments here (and counting) is proof that Lennon has a lasting place in history.

Allen on December 9, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    allen, the 80+ posts are the result of the absurdity of a rockstars’/drug addicts/ self-indulgent lifestyle who used ‘peace and love’ as his marketing gimmick. well, those who post from that point and the delusional who think he had some special genius beyond other great musicians from the 60 – 70’s.

    howardroark43 on December 9, 2010 at 8:26 pm

      correction: 63 comments

      howardroark43 on December 9, 2010 at 8:28 pm

earlier this week there was an AOL article about lennon… for every gushy, romaticized comment about lennon, there were a half dozen counter posts along the lines of debbie’s comments.

it was a lennon false-meme beatdown, for sure.

i liked the beatles music. and some of lennon’s songs. but it was just music and i never bought his ‘peace and love’ schtick. yes, i was bummed when he was murdered, but mostly because a piece of british rock history was lost (and no future beatles reunion)… but i didn’t mourn him as some great contributor to humanity it was just silly.

howardroark43 on December 9, 2010 at 8:21 pm

I personally hated the Beatles when I first heard them. Sissy boy band is all they were to me, though I did get to like them later on, at least some of their tunes.

Like his music or not, or what he stood for, his opinion of the war etc., genius or not Lennon was a jerk. What he did to his first wife Cynthia and son Julian, basically abandoned them to fulfill his own greedy self indulgant fantasies without any regard to her feelings and than tried his damned best to leave them without a penny proves it.

Filthy rich but tried to act the poor everyday man, moved to America but constantly criticized it, just a pure phony hyppocrite all the way. I just have to laugh at all the old fools that still try to deify him.

I thought I really liked his music but I just realized I’ve had his Greatest Hits CD for 20 yrs plus and played it only once. He was way better with the other 3 guys and NO YOKO! As a person, George Harrison was the only one I really liked.

theShadow on December 10, 2010 at 12:49 am

McCartney wrote the majority of their #1 hits (14 out of 27). John’s earlier songs (pre-Revolver) were good songs but his music afterwards became a mish mash of words and irritating noise. He himself did not care for most of what he wrote, his words not mine. Don’t believe me? read the Anthology book.

Comparing Lennon to Shakespeare or Beethoven is perposterous. Shakespeare had magnificent command of words. Beethoven wrote music more emotional than Lennon could of dreamed.

“Yellow matter custard, dripping from a dead dog’s eye”

Wow how profound!

Ken Blazek on December 10, 2010 at 9:28 am

    lol 2deep4u

    Patrician on December 11, 2010 at 11:13 pm

Oh my! I didn’t know that one person could wage a war. Such hyperbole! The lady does protest too much methinks.

The first casualty of war is the truth.

elvis on December 11, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Debbie, you sicken me.

You’re the reason why the world is so fucked up and why America is “destroyed”.

Ignorant, pretentious bigots like yourself are the ones to blame.

anon on December 11, 2010 at 10:33 pm

“And he’s not an important part of history in any way.”

Yeah. He was ONLY apart of one of the most influential and important act in modern day music along side The Velvet Underground, Beach Boys, Can, and Brian Eno.

You know, nothing SIGNIFICANT or RELEVANT today. Also, unless you have heard dozens of pieces done by Beethoven and Mozart, stop putting them on a high pedestal, you posers.

Derp on December 11, 2010 at 10:51 pm

John is probably laughing at your stupidity right now.

Kent on December 11, 2010 at 11:07 pm

Debbie, I love your blog, you’re right(!) on most things. However here I agree with Norman Blitzer – JL was a genius. Maybe you had to grow up in the Britain of the 60s and see it change from Black & White to Color – to reallyget it. But go back to those Beatles songs that we all take for granted – play them again, loud. Watch “A Hard Day’s Night”. Of course George Harrison (now my fave Beatle) was a better guitarist – so what? They were all great, but Lennon was the ace, the Walrus (to use a cliche). Sure his politics turned screwy, but we don’t really know how he would have thought today. I’m sure Yoko would be long gone.

Davieboy on December 12, 2010 at 7:22 am

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