March 14, 2013, - 1:16 pm
New Pope “Friend of Argentina’s Muslims,” Didn’t Stem Tide of S America’s Largest Muslim Pop, 80%+ Lapsed Catholic Rate
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One thing I know about new Pope Francis is what I knew about the previous Popes before him: that he will have the same anti-Israel position of the previous Popes and that he will be unable to stem the tide of lapsed Catholics that is ever growing concomitant with the ever growing population of Islam in the world. His track record on the second count was not good in Argentina. And Argentina’s Muslims count him as a “friend.” While one of the Pope’s assistants took Israel’s side during the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war, the new Pope assured Argentinian Muslims on whose side he was.
Pope Francis Lost the War Against Islam in Argentina; That Won’t Change @ the Vatican
In fact, Pope Francis, as Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in Argentina, was unable to stop a rate of lapsed Catholicism that reached 80% of Argentina’s Catholic population. And he was unable to stop the Muslim religion which grew–during the time he was Cardinal–to be the largest Muslim population in South America, some of it through immigration, but a good deal of it via conversion by lapsed Catholics to Islam. Under Bergoglio, Argentina’s Muslim population grew to be the second largest Muslim population in the Americas led only by the United States, with even more Muslims than Canada has. If you expect that he will be able to do throughout world what he was unable to do in Argentina, think again. He has a poor track record. His record is one of dhimmitude and capitulation toward Islam. Don’t look for that to change now that he’s on the world stage. People don’t change in their 70s, not even Popes.
While 92% of Argentina is Catholic, fewer than 20% of that 92% are practicing Catholics (according to the CIA Factbook), a number that got to that point under Pope Francis’ leadership as a Cardinal. And, also during his reign, Argentina’s Muslim population became the largest in Latin America, with estimates ranging from 500,000 Muslims (by the International Religious Freedom Report) to one million (by the more reliable Pew Research Center). Again, expect that to be the same now that he is at the Vatican.
And maybe long-term survival as a worldwide religion is not the goal of the Vatican. Maybe the Pope has no desire to stem the shrinkage of Catholicism and stop its biggest competitor. The capitulative actions of the Catholic Church–such as getting rid of pork at Rome’s soup kitchens to pander to Muslims–certainly aren’t the actions of a religion that wants to stay in business in the long run. And as I’ve pointed out, the Vatican put out a report decrying the persecution of Catholics in the Middle East . . . and blaming Israel–NOT Muslims–for the problem.
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The other thing he apparently has not done is speak out against the disgusting deal the current government of Argentina made with Iran over the Iranian backed Hezbullah/Revolutionary Guard bombings of Israeli and Jewish institutions in Argentina during the 1990s. I find this especially troubling.
SPOT. ON. As I’ve noted on this site, in the mid-1990s, Hezbollah bombed the Jewish Community Center and Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The Arab former Muslim then-Prez of Argentina, Menem, covered the whole thing up after he was paid off with $5 million by Iran. How sad that the new Pope went along with that. END UPDATE ****
There is an arms race of houses of worship throughout South America, and the Catholic Church is persona non grata in that arms race. It’s between mosques and Mormon churches. Islam and the Latter Day Saints church are the fastest growing in South America. Not Catholicism, which is losing its members to non-practice or to Islam and Mormonism. Pope Francis had no record of stemming that tide. Don’t look for something different now that he’s Pope. Argentina’s Muslim community tells us who is having the last laugh:
Argentine Muslims have welcomed the election of Argentine cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the head of the Roman Cathoilic Churhc. [sic] In an interview with Buenosairesherald.com, Sheij Mohsen Ali and CIRA Secretary General Dr.Sumer Noufouri praised Pope Francis’s “pro-dialogue” nature. “He always showed himself as a friend of the Islamic community. He visited the At-Tauhid Mosque (located) in the neighborhood of Floresta and the Arab-Argentine Ali Ibn Abi Talib School strengthening our relations”, the Director of the House for the Diffusion of Islam Sheik Mohsen Ali said . . . .
More sensitive issues, political arguments, also seem to prove the nature of the two times president of the Argentine Episcopal Conference. “By the time of the 2006 Lebanon War, I held an argument with one of his assistants. He received me and understood my position. He acted like a friend . . .,” the Muslim leader affirmed. . . .
“With joy and expectation of strengthening dialogue between religions”, Secretary General of the Islamic Center of the Republic of Argentina (CIRA) Dr. Sumer Noufouri told Buenosairesherald.com to resume how news about Bergoglio’s appointment were received by the institution he presides.
Considering ties between the CIRA and now Pope Francis “excellent”, Dr. Noufouri explained that the one-decade relation has helped to build Christian-Muslim dialogue, something “really significant in the history of monotheistic relations in Argentina”. A “joint work”, CIRA head added, “that we have never given up on”. Mario Jorge Bergoglio is a “respectful, pro-dialogue person who knows the Islam”, the CIRA Secretary General said and, just like Sheij Mohsen Ali. he chose an anecdote to picture the personality of the elected pontiff.
“When Bergoglio attended the CIRA to have lunch with the board, he told us that in Rome, when he talked about the relation he had with Muslims saying that he came to the CIRA . . . . “Argentina is a model of dialogue and coexistence that, God willing, could be exported to the world.”
Co-existence? More like pandering to the religion that is growing by the one that is dying. Let’s hope this model won’t be exported to the world. Sadly, this Pope will do that. That’s his history.
Some faux-conservatives, such as Former Miss USA contestant Shannon Bream at FOX News and Elisabeth Hasselbeck at ABC’s “The View,” decried Pope Francis’ opposition to gay marriage and gay adoption of children. But these are basic views of the Catholic Church. Of course they are his positions. What’s interesting–and not news–is that they don’t decry that these are the views of Islam. I’ve noted this hypocrisy and double standard before, such as when gays attacked Mormon churches in California for backing Proposition 8 against gay marriage, but didn’t attack or vandalize mosques, which were also strongly in support of Prop 8.
Same old, same old here. And don’t hold your breath expecting so-called “Fair and Balanced” to ever actually be fair and balanced on this issue.
Also, don’t expect anything different from the Catholic Church on Islam or Israel. Even though the biggest threat to Catholicism worldwide is, in fact, Islam–and the Middle East’s Catholics are dwindling, this Pope, like the others before him, will attack Israel and whine about the Palestinians.
Count on it. That’s his and his church’s track record. It won’t change.
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