December 19, 2011, - 7:34 am

Kim Jong-Il: Now “So Ronery” in Hell

By Debbie Schlussel

Aside from allying with Iran, starving his people and repressing them to the nth totalitarian degree, the now-late North Korean Prez Kim Jong-Il, who died over the weekend, had a weird predilection for platform shoes, Jackie-O/Olsen Twins glasses, and Michael Jordan and basketball.  It was that bizarre love of hoops and Air Jordan that one of the three worst Secretaries of State, Madeleine Albright, pandered to.  Not that it helped the situation with Kim or  his North Korea.  It only highlighted what a fool and fawning piece of ugly she was.

RIH: Kim Jong-Il & Hans Blix Say Their Last Good-Byes

In any event, my fave depiction of Kim was in “Team America:  World Police” (read my review).  Well, he’s now not “So Ronery” anymore, but while it’s crowded there, it’s also very hot in hell.  No more hoop dreams for the Muggsy Bogues of Stalinist murderer dictators.  Cue the song (and check out the rest of what I have to say on Kim Jong Dead). . .

Is it “ronery” in hell? Kim is finding out, right now.  And hopefully he’s got a new one-eyed boyfriend named Osama.  “Bin Raden.”

In case you were wondering, Kim also liked drunken orgies, exotic dancing, gourmet pizza, crying contests, and magical albino animals.  NOT joking.  Oh, and torturing his people.  His horrible human rights record didn’t make a difference to the New York Philharmonic, though, which feted him in Pyongyang.  Buh-Bye, Kimmie.  Have fun down under.

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71 Responses

Catholic theology holds that we can never presume who is in Hell, but in some cases, I’ll make an exception.

Red Ryder on December 19, 2011 at 9:06 am

Couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, I think his kid is just V.2.

GC on December 19, 2011 at 9:57 am

I guess it’s another bit of my Catholic-ism (is that a word?) that I’m not particularly fond of…I am hoping Kim Jong-il is burning and greatly suffering in Hell. May his torture NEVER cease.

I hope Americans (and others in the free world) realize that we are the EXCEPTION and that most people suffer under the boot-heel of odious devils like this pervy twerp! Every year I realize it more and more. It’s time to be brutal with the brutal. We thinking that everyone has a heart as we do is a foolish road to skip down.

I saw Parade Magazine did a truncated version of ‘The World’s Worst Dictators” this weekend. Usually David Wallechinsky does it. Is he still with us? Anyway, Kim Jong-il was #1. Here are the other 4. Islam fully represented (but don’t tell that to the Dhimmi American useful-idiots who think Islam has been “hi-jacked”….)

2)Isaias Afewerki-Eritrea

3)Omar al-Bashir (Sudan)

4)Isam Karimov (Uzbekistan)

5)Bashar al-Assad (Syria)

Notice no evil white men in the top 5. They rarely even make it in the top 10! But don’t tell Liberals that!

Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Good point, Skunky. Note to World: Main Tyrants in World are People of Color(TM).

    skzion on December 19, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      That’s right Skzion. I’ll post the six other Dictators taken out this year. Notice those of the “Arab Spring”…

      1) Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali-Tunisia

      2) Ali Abdullah Saleh-Yemen

      3) Laurent Gbagbo-Ivory Coast

      4) Muammar Gaddafi-Libya

      5) Hosni Mubarak-Egypt

      6) Kim Jong-il-North Korea

      This is a good bit of proof to shove down the Liberals throats…

      Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    One word Hitler….
    wait one more…Stalin

    time for one more Marget Thatcher.

    HA! Just kidding on that last one…kind of.

    But really your turning a list of dictators into a racial issue?

    petebone on December 19, 2011 at 9:53 pm

      Go play in traffic Bonehead. You’re a dope and a concern troll.

      And I’ll be ignoring you here like everyone else does.

      Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 10:18 pm

        Also, you were citing examples that occurred after 1953. That is not racial. Also, for your friend’s edification, Joseph Stalin was not a Russian or Slav, but Georgian or Circassian.

        Worry01 on December 20, 2011 at 1:18 am

        Name calling Skunky?As always keeping it classy.

        I’ve responded here often enough that I don’t believe I classify as a troll and Bonehead….well that’s name calling.

        petebone on December 20, 2011 at 1:49 am


          The death of this man, very, very bad man, is now really a rally call for your crack pot racial views. This thread is about the death of a dictator, not a rally for your little “ain’t white people better than brown people” philosophy.

          petebone on December 20, 2011 at 1:53 am

      If anyone needs reminding about them, they are in the drink. Is your cut-off point for dictators 1953? Is your fascist/marxist list racially determined? Sorry, things did not end with Joesph Stalin’s death, Are you trying to cover up for those who came after, such as Pol Pot?

      Worry01 on December 20, 2011 at 7:55 am

        Indeed Worry. Most people tacitly KNEW my reference (since I was speaking of THIS YEARS LIST and the strange coinkydink that they very same day it was published the NUMERO UNO was jettisoned into Hell) was in regard to present times.

        But I don’t need to tell you that is what Liberals do. They are always angry and always need to find a circuitous route to take a shot so they can feel they are so much better.

        And they insert a agro raaaaaaaaacist angle because they are not prone to thinking outside their racist mentality. They see someone pounding one’s chest in defense of “whitey” when the true and real intent was to show NO ONE corners the market on being either all good or all bad. When human beings are in the mix, something is gonna be effed up.

        And Worry, I knew you’d know the implications. Only the stupid and Liberal (redundant) don’t.

        Skunky on December 20, 2011 at 4:41 pm


          I will admit I did miss your point about “evil white man.” But you can’t really think comments like, “Note to World: Main Tyrants in World are People of Color(TM).” don’t scream racism?

          petebone on December 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm


          I will admit I did miss your point about “evil white man.” But you can’t really think comments like, ‘Note to World: Main Tyrants in World are People of Color(TM).’ don’t scream racism?

          petebone on December 20, 2011 at 7:46 pm”

          Well, as I wrote the “Note,” I guess I should respond to P. Bone. First, please capitalize your name. Second, please correct your off-center pose in your avatar. Thanks.

          skzion on December 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm

All I can really say about the article is that it’s disrespectful. He may have been a dictator and I do hate how he ran his country, causing his people to starve and trying to provoke wars, but being happy over death is just disgusting. He was evil, yes, and it’s perfectly fine to be relieved or happy that the evil is gone and criticize his policies and methods of ruling. But going directly after the person after death and saying he is in hell is just sickening to me.

Also, as a former Christian: “Let the one who has not sinned throw the first stone.” You cannot say whether someone is in hell or not.

Even after looking at some links I can tell you have no interest in respect, all you seem to want is attention through intentionally controversial, provocative and distasteful articles.

Though I must say, the website is very handy as an example of everything wrong with news today. Good reporting takes a back seat to getting publicity.

Ineverus on December 19, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Ineverus, can the PC bulls**t and fraudulant mumbo-jumbo nonsense man, this guy was pure evil, why the hell are you apologizing for this SOB? If this were around the WWII era and Hitler and Mussolini all died, would you be shedding tears for them? I bet you would shed tears for them and I also assume you think that Hitler and Mussolini were average human beings, in which they were NOT average human beings, and the samething can be said for Kim Jong-Ill, he was NOT a regular human-being Ineverus. As a matter of fact Ineverus, all dictators are NOT human beings, and if Ahmadinejad dies tomorrow are you going to come over here and do you’re wimpy PC message of, “yadda yadda you’re being disrespectful, yes Ahmadinejad was terrible and evil, but he was a ordinary human-being yadda yadda”, I also bet you would come over here and do the same crap if Ahmadinejad dies in the future?

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on December 19, 2011 at 10:56 am

    “Former Christian”. That was a dead giveaway of what you are. So celebrating the death of a satan that was running a dicatorship disrespectful and “offeeeeensie” to you?

    It’s people like you that has made america into a shell of what it once was. People like you who make me sick to my stomach.

    Squirrel3D on December 19, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Well, I for one am happy to piss on his grave. Fine use of otherwise wasted water.

    This guy was a vicious animal masquerading as a human being. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, because this blog is made in the good ol’ USA. Try doing commenting like a dingleberry in NK land, doofus.

    Oh, Debbie, this is a good time to mention the North Korean News Random Insult Generator.

    Occam's Tool on December 19, 2011 at 10:31 pm

      I am, of course, referring to Inerverus and Herp Derp.

      Occam's Tool on December 19, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    You are the sort who would weep over the rapist and child murderer, and put their victims in the rear-view mirror. I spare my concern for the victims of such people. Kim Jong-Il lived most of his life in extreme luxury where his every fetish and whim were followed. This would have been simply disgusting if it were not for the fact that he starved his people in order to build up his military and create a nuclear arsenal as well. No, showing respect for one like that is showing contempt for all those who suffered under him and his father.

    Worry01 on December 20, 2011 at 7:50 am

    I guess just feel relieved about Hitler to.

    S’pose you think your heaven is whitebread and mayo where everybody is saved,where even Bin Ladin has learned to genuflect. Jesus Christ! You should dream up your own religion like that Olstein guy, and don’t bogart the incense.

    Ron Wolf on December 21, 2011 at 1:04 am

Seriously, why do you even make these talentless reviews?

Is this how you make your money? Piss on people who have died? I don’t care if he deserved it or not, I don’t care about your damn religious views saying if he’s gone to hell, but the fact that you turn this in to a joke is just as sickening as the torture enacted by Kim Jong-Il.

Are you seriously religious? I bet you’re a greedy slut who had premarital sex.

Herp Derp on December 19, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Oh STFU, you far-left leftist loons are indeed the scum of the earth. First off dumbass, Debbie is NOT making fun of his death, so nice try and trying to take the womans words out of context and play “GOTCHA” with her, it ain’t working. Instead of making childish personal attacks against DS, try and stick to the article or get lost for good. And I’ve noticed you from earlier this year, you were doing the same BS on this blog, making numerous ad hominiem attacks against Debbie’s character and personality like a buffoon. You clearly gives trolls a horrible name jackass!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on December 19, 2011 at 11:01 am

    You’re an absolute puke. Now that you have embarrassed yourself (and your pal Inverted Brain, but I believe you are the same pile of crap…)with your evil and silly opinion you must know that we don’t care what you think of us.

    Go find a quiet place and weep for your lost pal Kim Jong-il. At least the prisoners in North Korea do not know what goes on outside their hellish country. Your excuse is absolute stupidity.

    Take your stupid and outrageous opinion and sit on it. That is where it belongs. You embrace evil when you fail to speak out against it.

    And one more for the road…I know Kim Jong-il is burning in hell and he will suffer for eternity. And it couldn’t happen to a better a**hole, you sick freak.

    Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 11:47 am

Hey Ineverus – thanks for the Kumbaya side of things.

As for me, I’m very happy that this sh#t stain gets to go play with his buddies Mao Zedong, Kim Il-sung, Stalin, Hitler, bin Ladin, Hussein, … in HELL. Satan’s having quite a party this year.

Jarhead on December 19, 2011 at 10:49 am

Death doesn’t really change the kind of person someone was. It is used by the PCers to propagandize over and over against those they don’t like and praise those they do. The idea of not criticizing the dead (or infirm such as Rep. Giffords) has just become another excuse to stifle dissent.

Yes, the NY Philharmonic (more philharmonic in embracing dictators of different hues than in embracing different harmonies) went to Korea. A large percentage of this orchestra and its leadership is Jewish, but they had no problem supporting a dictator who was strengthening Israel’s enemies, who want to use North Korea’s weapons to try to annihilate Israel.

Little Al on December 19, 2011 at 11:14 am

Aww Hans Brix, so good to see you!

Hopewell on December 19, 2011 at 11:53 am

Hanoi Jane and Ted Turner are crying today.

Rocky Lore on December 19, 2011 at 12:06 pm

Here are some photos released earlier this year. They are of North Korea. Interesting and eery.

Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 12:14 pm

Also some of a broken-down amusment park in North Korea. Very erie.

Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 12:24 pm

This genocidal murderer and maniac has fallen into the hands of a just God, so he is now a former atheist. If someone is a professed atheist, has people worship him as a god, violates any of the 10 Commandments, and dies in his sin without repentence and belief in Jesus Christ as his Savior, he will be judged guilty and sent to the Lake of Fire. Those who say we cannot know whether he is in hell are foolish. Unless of course, he had a bedside conversion, which I doubt.

Concerned Citizen on December 19, 2011 at 1:02 pm

Concerned Citizen, does what you say also apply to the Jews who died in the holocaust? They would obviously have not repented their sins to Jesus nor believe in him and therefore are burning in hell. Meanwhile, the Nazi’s who killed them are now enjoying paradise in heaven as they are Christians and would have repented their sins before they died.

nick on December 19, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    Who says the Nazi’s were Christian? Was Hitler NOT an atheist and/or Heathen?
    Judge not lest you be judged…Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…

    God don’t make mistakes and only God knows if the Heathens and people who reject Christ as the Messiah will burn in hell or not. i.e. be forgiven.

    Who cares? on December 21, 2011 at 5:01 pm

Hooray for our Just and Mighty Lord! Now when I go to Heaven I won’t have to seek this man’s face. I get to share paradise with men and women that gave their lives to God through baptism, like Jeffrey Dahmer and the great Adolf Hitler.

Dova H. Kiin on December 19, 2011 at 1:36 pm

You trolls of the left are out of your minds. You live in a little fantasy bubble that is nice and safe and protected. I bet you never even saw a real person die except in the movies. Dying from torture and murder is the worst way to go ,and hundreds of thousands of innocent people went that way thanks to this piece of trash Kim Jong Il. I hope he is burning in the eternal fires where he belongs. If you have tears to shed ,shed them for the victims of these fanatics.

Tom Dooley on December 19, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Tom, these trolls are such immoral haters that they will use any opportunity to spew their hate, even the happy occasion of the croaking of a world-class villain.

    skzion on December 19, 2011 at 3:50 pm

      Skzion and Tom Dooley, the few far left trolls who commented here are just as disgusting and vile as the islamist themselves, they’ll take a big chance of play “GOTCHA” by jumbling up and taking people’s words out of context to play politics and push their stinking and rotten agenda! If you all remember during the Lara Logan fiasco 10 months ago, when Debbie wrote those two articles, all hell broke loose on this blogsite, you had sociopath far-left, far-right and muslim trolls commenting here making complete asses of themselves, and I believe Media Matters forwarded Ms. Schlussel’s two Lara Logan threads to numerous left wing websites/blogs, etc.

      And the samething happend when Debbie wrote one of the Norway articles, the same BS occured, but this time there was numerous anti-semitism hatred from those pathetic trolls that commented on the Norway thread that DS wrote back in the summer. And I also believe Media Matters forwarded DS’s Norway thread to all left-leaning websites on cyberspace?

      “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

      Sean R. on December 19, 2011 at 4:21 pm

My first thought was good riddance to this dictator. My second thought was “May the Axis of Evil Be Converted to Judaism and Christianity.” The world might be more peaceful then.

Confederate South on December 19, 2011 at 1:43 pm

The parts of Christian (and Catholic) doctrine that promise damnation, purgatory and heaven are among the most important.

DS_ROCKS! on December 19, 2011 at 1:59 pm

If there is a hell he deserves to be there – much more so than someone who believes the wrong things. Compared to his tyranny of starvation, contemporary China (including Tibet) is a humanitarian paradise. A doctor once escaped North Korea and discovered Chinese farmers’ dogs were eating rice – and so were being fed better than her.

Though if unrepentant command responsibility over acts of torture (even on a much smaller scale) is sufficient for eternal damnation, many world leaders may unfortunately be joining him there, including some closer to home from a Western perspective.

Alex on December 19, 2011 at 2:27 pm

“Hans Brix? Oh Noo, How many times do I have to tell you Hans” I love that movie, a parody on so many levels. Good choice Debbie ha haaa

jake49 on December 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Love love love the muggsy call..

ceannrua on December 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm

I,for one,am not shedding any tears for this monster. I’m hoping that Kim Jong-Il gets what he deserves,a reservation in Hades alongside Khomeini,Bin Laden,Hitler,Stalin,and others like him. He deserves nothing less than that.

Ghostwriter on December 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm

One turd flushed and another one takes his place.

RT on December 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Jong isn’t lonely in Hell. Qaddafi , Bin Laden , and Saddam. Hopefully, Ben Ali, Mubarak and Assad will be joining him soon.

shaw on December 19, 2011 at 5:38 pm

I am surprised Barbara WaWa (Walters) never was invited to one of this man’s villas, where she could wax poetic about his intellect, and about his being a great family man.

Jonathan E. Grant on December 19, 2011 at 6:28 pm

Well, I was raised by a southern Baptist minister who knew plenty about Hell!

Mister ex-Tyrant, this is your fate in a nutshell:

Matthew 13:49 “So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, ”
Matthew 13:50 “And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”
Mark 9:48 “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.”
Revelation 14:10 “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:”
Revelation 14:11 “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”
Revelation 20:13 “And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”
Revelation 20:14 “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
Revelation 20:15 “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

I’ve got more. 😉

Michelle on December 19, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Michelle, the big problem is that everybody with a “Birth Certificate” is written into the book of death.

    Only a chosen few are in the book of life.

    Many are called, but few are chosen.

    Who cares? on December 21, 2011 at 5:19 pm

I noticed your admission to being a former “Christian.” Well congratulations and welcome to the secular mindset of the ultra-progressive pacifist…where you can just “spa-a-a-ace-out.”

Patrick on December 19, 2011 at 7:26 pm

I was so pleased to see you pay such extensive tribute to Team America, Debbie. That is certainly one of the finest, most audaciously satisfying films made in the last decade. What better way to commemorate Kim Jong-ll’s passing than to remind everyone of the portrait of that foolish tyrant created by Parker and Stone? Perfect!

Burke on December 19, 2011 at 8:31 pm

Debbie for the purpose of full disclosure, I also like pizza, basketball and drunken orgies, but have only experienced the first two as I don’t drink. Debbie I extend to you a hearty Mazal tov on your Lions epic on-the-road comeback in Oakland. Kol hakavod. And yishar koach to Julius Edelman, Tom Brady and the NE Pats who, as I predicted here, T-boned the Broncos thanks to the Almighty.

A1 on December 19, 2011 at 9:07 pm

May Kim Jong-Il rot in hell.

Also, I agree with Debbie and Burke that the movie “Team America: World Police” rocks. I saw the movie when came out and it was excellent.

JeffE on December 19, 2011 at 10:27 pm

It’s really funny how people can twist words so much. I’m not saying I’m sorry he’s dead. But I’m not joyous over the death itself. I’m joyous that he cannot do evil anymore. But going and making a joke out of the whole thing is pretty low. Death is just death. It’s the good that comes out of it that people should be happy about. The good here is that a dictator can no longer harm is people. Whether or not his son continues the wrongdoings of his father remains to be seen, but for now we can be certain that the Kim Jong il brand of evil is gone, and that is something to be happy about.

I do not support the North Korean government at all, let me make that clear. It’s a propaganda spewing and nation wrecking entity. And I’m extremely glad that for now the evil will stop, even if this moment is short. But I’m not crossing the line into “Ha ha, he’s dead.”

Yet I’m certain someone will twist my words again to mean something they didn’t. After just reading a few responses I think I can assume that word-twisting is a common tactic against anyone who disagrees with the right-wing evangelist viewpoint.

Let me guess, someone will say I’m an Islamist next even though I haven’t said anything about that up until this sentence. Nope.

Ineverus on December 19, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Inverted Brain, now that you’ve TRIED to prove that you are so much better than all of us GET. LOST.

    Put me in the column that will ALWAYS celebrate the death of a bad guy. And Kim Jong-il was one of the WORST. He was number one (at press time) for the WORLD’s WORST DICTATORS.

    I know who I am an do NOT need people to edify me as you do. You are just being kind to the cruel and we don’t abide that here. Fool.

    Skunky on December 19, 2011 at 11:17 pm

Deb …I think I found a potential contemporary like-minded historical partner for ‘Kim’ :

…maybe you’ve heard of him….?

starkexpo on December 19, 2011 at 10:53 pm

He is dead so he’s now having gay sex with Jesus and 77 virgins.

young gail kim on December 20, 2011 at 6:15 am

Well, there goes one legendary golfer – who can forget his 11 holes-in-one?

So Kim Jong Il is now Kim Jong Dead. I know, I know, it’s in poor taste to speak il of the dead.

More seriously, his son succeeding him as the Great Successor just shows that not only do the Communists lie when they describe their countries as Peoples’ Democracies (North Korea’s official name is Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea), but in this case, they’re even lying about being a republic. These are monarchies, plain & simple. The Kim dynasty in Pyongyang – Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il and now Kim Jong Wu. Or Kim Jong Who, if you prefer 😉

But this highlights another existential dilemma for this country, similar to East Germany in 1989. Countries like Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Vietnam could all shed Communism and remain who they were. But once East Germany ceased to be Communist, it lost any rationale of being separate from West Germany, and ultimately merged. Same thing will sooner or later happen to Korea – South Korea is already the country people think of when they talk about Korea, so if North Korea ever sheds Communism, it would just merge into one Korea. Unless Beijing tries to stop it from happening, in which case, it won’t.

Just wish that the Castros (both Fidel & Raul) as well as Chavez hit the bucket, sooner rather than later. For their countries, it should be easier – Cuba will remain Cuba, and Venezuela will remain Venezuela.

Infidel on December 20, 2011 at 6:43 am


From your Parade Magazine list, even though Islam Karimov is on paper a Muslim, his regime cracks down on Jihadi elements in his country the way Ben Ali did in Tunisia, or Saddam & Assad did in their countries. Just that unlike them, Uzbekistan is not anti-Israel – in fact, the Muslim Republics in Central Asia somehow have chosen to have normal relations w/ Israel, despite being Muslim. It may be a combination of Russian cultural influence still being there, as well as a recognition that the only reason to be anti-Israel is Islam, which they are busy suppressing. Although Islam is making an attempt of a comeback in Kazakhstan.

Parade’s list of worst dictators includes dictators who we know are necessary in a Muslim state. For instance, Ben Ali was someone who completely reined in Islam, so while Tunisia was a dictatorship, Jews & other non-Muslims were safe. Now that they’ve had elections, the Muslims have elected an Islamic party, and non-Muslims are recognizing the writing on the wall & bailing. Same thing is happening in Egypt as well, even though Mubarak was a mixed bag.

If the Central Asian countries – Muslim now – become Islamic, it’s bad news mainly for Russia & China, but also for the rest of the non-Muslim world. A few more oil rich countries (Kazakhistan & Turkmenistan) falling to Islam is just what we need. I do hope that Thorium is developed soon so that it can be used for as much commercial energy as possible, and maybe even for transportation purposes.

Infidel on December 20, 2011 at 6:55 am

    Thank you Infidel. You brought up a very important caveat that I agree with. And of course you only hear of that very vital variable here.

    But even so, I’ve followed the list for years because it’s fascinating (however, when Wallechinsky did it it was more informative) and I think Americans SHOULD know more about Dictators and how we in America are the exception and that our freedom is the ultimate gift. Because of the list I am more aware of geo-politics and know about tyrants like Obiang of Equatorial Guinea and Than Shwe of Burma. It makes me even more grateful to be an American.

    And As I previously alluded to, I think the list shows that EVERYBODY is involved in oppression. I know the Left tries to demonize “whitey” but the truth is that if one is a human being, they have the capacity to be a devil like Kim Jong-il. THAT’s what one learns as a Conservative.

    So yes, when one reads the list they MUST think about the “Arab Spring” and sometimes deposing these freaks is NOT good for the rest of the world BUT it’s important that the free know that the people of these horrible countries are being oppressed all the same, if only to be grateful for what the free world is. Assad is on the list BUT the huge question is, IS it better for the world if he is toppled or not? It’s a terrible equation because both situations are bad. But being the way the “Arab Spring” is going with the rise of the MB, it will be a further win for the worst of the Islamic Jihadists.

    And I see that the Egyptian Military is beating the crap out of the women very openly now. Mubarak was a tyrant but indeed one who should have stayed.

    Skunky on December 20, 2011 at 10:15 am

I never in any way said I was better than anyone else. Again, word-twisting. And I’m not being kind to the cruel, I even clarified that in my comment. But you seem to have missed it.

“I’m not saying I’m sorry he’s dead. But I’m not joyous over the death itself. I’m joyous that he cannot do evil anymore.”

I’m neither being kind nor am I being cruel. no one deserves cruelty over their death, but some do deserve kindness over it. At least to the death itself. One could say I’m very happy he died, but not because he’s just dead. I don’t, as I said, take part in the “Ha ha he’s dead” mindset. But because there’s a good that can come out of it.

But again, someone will intentionally disregard anything I just said and continue to make the argument I’m a dictator sympathizer of some sort, even though while Kim Jong Il was alive I did not at all like what he did, in fact I was disgusted with it.

Ineverus on December 20, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Ineverus, I am gonna be straight with you. I am sure you’ll not get it but here is my one shot.

    You took (at least here) a controversial position. When you take such, you MUST know that you are gonna get some blow-back. That is exactly what happened. You had the cojones to state such a position and the passionate here (including me) gave it to you with both barrels. I guess I am shocked you acted so wounded and misunderstood? If I had said such a statement, I’d have girded my loins (if I had any!) and either expected the onslaught or been able to defend my position of both.

    That being said I vehemently disagree with your position and your position is one of those that take me zero to sixty in seconds flat. And while I am usually ready to defend my position I have to admit that in converse to what you said, I never thought I would have to.

    Therefore, you can’t make a choice to put a controversial opinion out there and NOT expect slings and arrows.

    And I am standing firm in MY position that I will celebrate the demise of the evil all the time. Happily and vocally.

    Skunky on December 20, 2011 at 4:32 pm

Ineverus – I-Never-Us? – petebone et al.

You guys are making us atheists and agnostics look like Muppets.

Yes, the recently departed Christopher Hitchens acknowledged that organized religion in essence is pretty well evil. But as we also know, there are those amongst us who can be just as sick and corrupt as – and maybe even worse than – the demigods who claim to represent their respected faiths.

My sole regret is that Mossad, Blackwater Contractors or Seal Team Six would’ve done the job much better.

Atheists and agnostics thrive due to Euro-Judaeo-Xtian tolerance and charity. We would never exist under an fascist Muslim civilization, mainly because every man wants to be Mohammed. If/when fascist Islam takes over (read “Budayeen Nights” by George Alec Effinger to expand your imagination a bit), we will be the first ones to go on the chopping block. I’m just saying.

For my fellow posters: before we all go high-five and Havah Nagilah over Kim Jong-ill’s demise (sorry – Lil’ Kim’s neither in heaven nor hell: he’s just gone), remember that the regime of paranoid skullfuckery still exists. Same shit, different chef. Mazel Tov – next time, Mossad should be the cause of the next Kim’s death. And the next one. And the next…

Happy Hanukkah to you, yours and everyone else. Gimme Gimel!

The Reverend Jacques on December 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm

My bad… this sentence: “My sole regret is that Mossad, Blackwater Contractors or Seal Team Six would’ve done the job much better” – by the job, I meant killing Kim, Arafat, Gaddafi, etc.

Whatever happened to good old political assassinations? Bring ’em all back.

Meanwhile, Satan just came over to my place asking to crash out on my couch. He seemed to be a little stressed about his crib being filled by whiny megalomaniacal nutters. He left when I told him that I didn’t drink anymore. I gave him couple of smokes to hold him over until payday. He did mention though that the weather up here in Halifax is much warmer than his ‘hood. Damn.

The Reverend Jacques on December 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Oh I’m perfectly fine with getting heat. But you took my comment and made it mean things it didn’t; I don’t sympathize with the Kim Jong family dictatorship nor do I think I’m better than anyone else.

Also, no that is not what my name means Jacques. It’s an anagram.

And yes, I know that if suddenly the troubling aspects of Islam took over everything that we’d be dead. However that is not a realistic outcome. And I also know that tolerance from multiple religious groups allowed us to exist. However, I live under a government which requires tolerance, not a religion which does.

But I do not hate or disrespect religion, at least as a whole. There are extremism aspects of it and it sometimes can cause ignorance on certain subjects. This is what I take offense at with religion.

And of course I don’t think atheism or agnosticism is on higher moral ground as a whole. There are some who take it in the completely wrong direction and think it means they’re free to do whatever unfortunately.

Ineverus on December 20, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Well Ineverus, there are some things in life that it is foolish to be your everyday, kind and good-hearted way with and those are psychopaths and sociopaths (basically the same thing) and when one lets their guard down with such sorts, they will get it in the end. Even the PC heavy psychiatric field will warn someone to “protect” themselves from those evil types.

    I don’t tolerate them and also do not tolerate their enablers because more people can become hurt and victims when those evil sorts can spin their web.

    THIS is the blog to learn about the be-all-end-all of Islam about. And DS is rare but very correct (and brave) that she calls it correctly. The whole religion is diseased and it trickles down to those in it who see themselves as moderate. There are hundreds of thousands of examples since 9/11 itself as proof.

    I never understood those who get so angry with religion they tear the whole house down. Sure there are flaws in all religions but I don’t get like “Well, religion has started so much trouble I hate them all”. I think people are free to choose and it doesn’t bother me UNLESS the religions are Islam, Santeria (or other animal sacrificing crap) and “Scientology”.

    I care about my religion and Judaism the most and if the others don’t hurt others and aren’t false, then I couldn’t care less.

    Skunky on December 20, 2011 at 6:26 pm

I can definitely agree with the first point. I would take caution in dealing with someone like Kim Jong Il while they’re alive. After they’re dead I’m just more inclined to look at the relief it could bring to people rather than the death itself, that’s all.

Also, yes, a lot of Islam is pretty odd and backwards, mainly because the areas in which it is most prevalent are stagnating technologically compared with the rest of the world, so it hasn’t modernized at all, really. But I do recommend Rick Steves’s documentary on today’s Iran. The government of Iran may often be extremely provocative and anti-American, but if the documentary is anything to go by, the people, or at least not all of them, don’t share the same ideologies.

In the end, I’ll give Islam heat where it deserves heat, same with any other religion. Though I will admit Islam seems to be the religion that I have to give heat the most.

Ineverus on December 20, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    Rick Steves’s documentary? No, it’s nothing to go by.

    Ineverus, you say that “a lot of Islam is pretty odd and backwards.” First it is telling that you use such language rather than “obscene and murderous.” Second, that business about “a lot” implies that a fair amount of Islam is not “odd” or “backwards.” Specifics?

    I think you’ve been treated very nicely here. Unfortunately.

    skzion on December 21, 2011 at 9:29 pm

      You are correct Skzion.

      Here is the line that shows that Ineverus has NOT read much on this site…

      “a lot of Islam is pretty odd and backwards, mainly because the areas in which it is most prevalent are stagnating technologically compared with the rest of the world”

      This is just an ignorant wanting to talk someone (DS) into knowing how one should use one’s heart in lieu of a brain.

      Ignorance on parade wanting to lead the parade. Amazing.

      Skunky on December 21, 2011 at 10:25 pm

Funny, Skzion. You didn’t even tell me why the documentary was nothing to go by. You’ll probably just say the people were forced to be nice, but where’s the evidence in that?

One part of Islam that is not backwards would be Islamic people I’ve met here in America. They talk with their friends. They get a normal education. In fact, the only way I could even tell any of them were Islamic is because of the headdress.

Another part is the very documentary I mentioned. The people there actually were against the hate that each government spews at each other. They didn’t ever criticize Steves for his religion. They were normal people.

America’s problem is that it projects one type of person onto everyone who shares a similar trait to that person. To be honest, it shows a lack of intelligence and diligence. And I won’t be arguing with bigots because clearly you have no idea how to think of Islam as something other than “TERRORIST-JIHADISTS AND MURDERERS! KILL THEM ALL!”

Every single terrorist should be berated for what they do. But NOT every single Muslim. Leave the hate for the Extremists, Fundamentalists and Terrorists. But not all of them are like that, and the fact that you think this is true just shows your unwillingness to actually go out and research the topic because it conflicts your twisted, prejudiced worldview.

And newsflash: Iran doesn’t hate Jews. The Iranian government only hates the Israeli government for its aggressive expansion. Israel SHOULD go back to its 1967 borders. It’s a HUGE reason why there’s so much conflict going on there. Not because Muslims hate Jews but because Israel is sticking its nose into territories it should not be. And then many Muslims there in turn hate us because we support Israel and don’t take a tougher stance on them. If America finally got a spine and told Israel to shrink to 1967 status or go it alone, then I can GUARANTEE you that the Muslim Middle East would not hate us nearly as much.

And are you seriously implying you are using your brain instead of your heart? You have the brain of a cockroach, and your opinions are just as repulsive, too. You just say they’re all evil outright without giving back up other than the fact that SOME are. I actually gave a reason: That the area in which they are so populous has not experienced as much technological growth. They missed the technology boom that led us to the fancy flatscreen TVs and Computers. Then on top of that, the wealth is not spread very well. There’s a handful of rich families and then a ton of poor ones, so not many can even get the technology and they turn to religion much, much more.

These views you hold are disgusting and so are you for holding them up so highly. I don’t care if you call me disgusting because it means nothing to me. Why should I care what some idiots like you think? You’ll say “OH HERE COMES THE AGNOSTIC, TOUTING HIMSELF AS HIGHER”. Well I’m not touting Agnosticism or Atheism as higher, nor am I touting myself. I’m just calling you out for your ridiculously prejudiced minds.

You can say anything you want, about how I’m naive for not hating them all, but it only shows your ignorance and stupidity. I’ve see enough. You can all go circle-jerk over your bigotry for all I care and mock me, but like I said, idiots’ opinions don’t bother me one bit. I’ll be damned if I ever come to this hellhole of a website again.


Ineverus on December 22, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Nice reply.

    petebone on December 22, 2011 at 10:47 am

    “You can all go circle-jerk over your bigotry for all I care and mock me, but like I said, idiots’ opinions don’t bother me one bit. I’ll be damned if I ever come to this hellhole of a website again.”

    Uh-huh, so according to you’re logic those of us who see’s reality and calls out all evil acts, etc. are morons, bigots and idiots to you? Bro, we are ONLY exposing and giving out all of the investigative FACTS of islam and what it stands for, you need to wake the hell up man! And yes you are kinda naive from what I’ve read in you’re last message, do you know that a good number of muslims in this country supports islamic terrorism, etc.?

    Ineverus, those of us who comment here use’s alot of critical thinking, where NOT using our imagination to use knee-jerk analogies, and this is NOT a “hell-hole” website as you claimed, if you don’t like what any of us are saying, then don’t come back here EVER again, it’s that simple! Just as I barely comment on left wing websites, but their all entitled to their own opinions and viewpoints and I might disagree with them on some to many occasions, but I don’t call all left wing blogs/websites “hell-hole” just as you called this one for you’re moronic knee-jerk reasons!

    “A nation is defined by its borders, language & culture!”

    Sean R. on December 22, 2011 at 3:55 pm

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