October 4, 2010, - 3:30 pm

Wanna Lose a Debate Against Islam? Invite Robert Spencer

By Debbie Schlussel

I used to like Robert Spencer . . . ’til I got to know him and realized what a fraud, thief, and sleazebag he is.  It’s not just that he’s been spending his time doing CAIR’s work by contacting various websites and individuals, telling them not to post, link to, or send out my work, in his own jealous, eliminate-the-competition McCarthyism campaign.  And it’s not just that he and his close friend, car loan fraud artist Scamela Geller (whose car loan fraud scams using Muslim straw buyers resulted in the murder of a cop and the one honest salesman who worked for her and was tipping off police to her and her then-hubby’s scams), shamelessly invited a mother who helped honor kill her two daughters to a rally they were holding.  It’s much more than that, which I’ll revisit at another time.  But yesterday, viewers of ABC News’ “This Week” got to see what an inept debater on Islam–his claimed expertise–the slob truly is.  He was as useful as a bump on a log.  Tip to future Muslim and mainstream media debate organizers:  if you wanna win a debate on Islam, make sure you invite Robert Spencer to waste one of the seats on the other side.

Robert Spencer, Epic Fail: The Joke’s on Us

Yesterday, Muslim-loving hostess and Iranian propagandist Christiane Amanpour hosted a debate regarding Islam on what is usually her boring politics variety show.  Among the participants “against” Islam were the noble Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Spencer, Peter Gadiel (a father of a 9/11 victim), and Rev. Franklin Graham (who was about as useless as Spencer).  On the Muslim side were Daisy Khan (the wife of Imam Feisal Rauf of the two-blocks-from-Ground-Zero-mosque), Reza Aslan, Donna Marsh O’Connor (mother of a 9/11 victim), Azar Nafisi, an Iranian activist immigrant, and Anjem Choudary (the only honest Muslim on the panel, because he admitted what all of Islam is really about–his brand of extremism).  Watch the video, below, and read the transcript.

From the audience, Gary Bauer, Imam Osama Bahloul of Tennessee, and former FBI agent Brad Garrett participated.  And, while none of the participants was particularly good in denouncing Islam, Gary Bauer came the closest and should have replaced the useless Spencer, who had no business being there. And here’s why . . .

We heard over and over from the Muslims that they are unequivocally against terrorism and have denounced the 9/11 attacks.  But no-one–either Spencer, nor Graham, nor Bauer–ever asked them the simplest question:  would they denounce Hezbollah–which murdered hundreds of Americans, HAMAS, Islamic Jihad, etc.?  Nope, Slobbert Spencer just sat there and said and did nothing.  (Only when I’m involved does it seem Robert Spencer finds the energy to protest.)  Nor did he protest when Daisy Khan and the other extremists on the panel called themselves “moderate Muslims.”  Again, someone could have asked these self-appointed “moderates” to denounce any of the Islamic terrorist groups other than Al-Qaeda.  But they said nothing.  Completely useless.  Complete silence when Daisy Khan asked whether they can see into her heart and know whether or not she’s completely peaceful–yet another perfect opportunity to ask her to specifically denounce these terrorist groups her husband already refused to condemn.

Then, we heard ABC “terrorism expert” (what a phony title for an ignoramus) and former FBI agent, Brad Garrett (who mostly worked murder cases, NOT terrorism, in the FBI) , claim that there really isn’t an Islamic terrorism threat in America because prosecutions for Islamic terrorism only number in the few hundred since 9/11.  Anyone with a clue about these matters–and that’s not Robert Spencer, nor Brad Garrett, nor Franklin Graham–would know that the reason there aren’t large numbers of terrorism charges filed and very few prosecutions is that the feds would rather deport these people or try them on other crimes, which are easier to prove.  That’s common knowledge to anyone in the know . . .which describes NONE of the people on the panel.  On the silence by Spencer and the others to this, the word “incompetent” is an understatement.

The Justice Department’s preference for pandering to–rather than prosecution of–Islamic terrorists is a huge factor in why few Muslims are prosecuted for terrorist activity.  Ditto for incompetent Justice Department lawyers who carelessly lose evidence and deliberately lose cases, as in the Sami Al-Arian case, the Sami Omar Al-Hassayen case, most of the Holy Land Foundation case, the Youssef Megahed case, the Miami Muslim Sears Tower Case (tried three times, lost twice), the Mohammad Salah case, etc.  Or how about when the pandering, politically correct Bush Justice Department sought and achieved the overturning of the Detroit Islamic Terror Cell convictions and gave citizenship to the formerly convicted terrorists?  Well, the incompetent, ignorant Robert Spencer didn’t say a word about this.  Because he’s a fraud, not an expert.  He spends his time trying to silence my work and steal mine and Islam scholar Andrew Bostom’s, but when it comes to actually knowing what he’s talking about with these Muslims, he’s an absolute zero.  A waste of space.  A complete Slobbert.  Period.

And, in what became the most covered soundbite from the debate, Daisy Khan repeatedly said there are death threats against her and her husband, to which there was not much of a response.  Well, guess what?  I’ve had at least four death threats by AMERICAN Muslims on my life.  And so have others.  Three of those who threatened my life were prosecuted (with sweetheart slap-on-the-wrist plea deals), but the government refuses to prosecute one of them because they place a higher value of the lives of Muslim extremists than mainstream Americans of other faiths.  Of course, Spencer–with his jihad against me more fierce than his faux-jihad against Muslims–wouldn’t dare bring that up.  And the rest of these people were just mostly uninformed.  So, instead, Daisy Khan’s claim that she and her husband have death threats against them is the press story.  Shukran [“Thanks,” in Arabic], Slobbert.

Like I said, Gary Bauer was pretty good and should have been on that stage, instead of the inadequate bearded bump on a log who claims he’s Watching Jihad.  Ayaan Hirsi Ali barely said anything, but was good in what she said.  And that’s it.

Wanna lose a debate against Muslims?  Invite Robert Spencer, and the followers of Mohammed will laugh at you all the way to Ground Zero. . . and everywhere else in America.

Throughout the debate, Spencer inserted only irrelevance and came off mostly as a fool.  I felt like I was watching the “before” picture in a Viagra ad–completely impotent.

Of course, now that I’ve given him the answers and the correct lines–since he reads (and rips off) this site–I’m sure Slobbert will try to get it right, the next time. Some people “watch jihad” as a means of wealth and self-promotion. Some of us actually do something to stop it.

Yup, if this is your “warrior” against Islam, good luck suckers. You lost.

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Debbie, ABC News should have invite you on “This Week”, which you would have trounced on Robert Spencer AND the Muslim side.

Alas, their loss. Your blog is all our gain. ;)

Bobby'sBrain on October 4, 2010 at 4:09 pm

just be glad that it was aired on a Sunday afternoon. why he agreed to go on with such a biased audience in the first place is frustrating. it isn’t like he got that much exposure from it. you would of been a better voice against Khan.
this setup of boyz against goils… and the goils are open minded and boyz will be boyz is aggravating.
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NDS: It’s not about the audience, which was half filled with the families of 9/11 victims, or about the gender divide. It’s about the incompetent Robert Spencer, who is completely useless and an epic failure. Incompetent. He’s asked questions and starts going into academic quotations. Can’t give answers. Won’t interject or refute anything. A total waste of space and time. Of course I’d have been better. I know the material. The fraud who heads Jihad Watch and styles himself an Islam expert doesn’t. DS

Noah David Simon on October 4, 2010 at 4:13 pm

I agree, and furthermore contend that it was all a set-up anyway. I didn’t watch all of it, probably because I don’t trust any “reporter” or “hostess” (which implies some genteel manner, huh!) whom in a lopsided “documentary,” called a hand full of Jewish nut jobs “Jewish Extremists.” Against the millions of hardline West hating, Jew hating, Holocaust denying Muslims? Give me a frickin break. Amanpour can bite me. (cover up with a burqa first)

Simcha the Angry Jew.

Simcha the Angry Jew on October 4, 2010 at 6:04 pm

Debbie, I love you like a sister but I have to ask, What about the cutting room floor? Is it possible that that cut Roberts points out?

CZ: No, b/c Gary Bauer was great, and they didn’t edit him, which they’d have done, if they were also editing Robert Spencer. You can tell when something was edited. Spencer wasn’t edited. He was just a useless nothing, plain and simple. When he responded, it was sooo ridiculous and inept. That wasn’t editing. That was incompetence. Stop making excuses for this McCarthyist fraud who hangs out with criminal car loan fraud scammer and is contacting sites demanding they stop running my stuff. DS

CZ on October 4, 2010 at 6:12 pm

In a sense, “Slobbert” Spencer IS “watching jihad” – but doing nothing concrete to truly fight it. In other words, he “watches” in the same way as . . . well, a bump on a log.

I think there could be another way besides inviting Spencer to lose a debate against Islam: Invite “Scamela” Geller. Anyone but those who would truly come out loaded with true facts.

ConcernedPatriot on October 4, 2010 at 6:54 pm

I watched the last 20 minutes of the show, All I noticed was Amanpour was not an impartial reporter. She seemed to jump to the aid of any muslim that was being questioned. And asked hard questions to other religion guests. What the heck is going on at ABC?

Izlamafobe on October 4, 2010 at 8:00 pm

This is a symptom of the fact that we’re looking at the best “anti-Islamisation movement” an Islamiser’s money can buy.
The Globalist Establishment (of which the US Establishment is clearly a part) is pushing Islam Globally.
It is a *deliberate* policy.
It is not a result of mistakes or incompetence.
Most importantly – it’s working!

Whenever Elites wish to implement policies which they know will be opposed by much of the citizenry, they inevitably must employ strategies and tactics designed to deceive those opposing their agendas. One basic tactic which works most of the time is to deploy “opponent leaders” who tend to become foolishly idolised by their flock. These leaders are put there to effectively manage the mindsets of their followers.
Inevitably, these leaders withhold important information from their followers which might make their campaigns more effective. Then, inevitably, these leaders start to change their tune or they are shown to be corrupt in some way – this effectively neutralises the movement.

The apparent incompetence of the “anti-Islamisation movement” should be seen in this light – we are witnessing the results of the Establishment’s pro-Islamisation agenda.

http://www.hirhome.com/iraniraq/guide-iraniraq.htm

Nigel on October 4, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    Nigel (above) has hit the nail on the head. We are like ‘babes in the woods’ against a seemingly relentless force which has no morals and will stop at nothing. Sometimes, I think the phoney anti-Islamification types are the most dangerous people of all. They confuse and dishearten a basically well-intentioned, but naive, Americnan public. People can become disengaged from the whole struggle when a so-called “leader” is revealed to be corrupt & false. As well as by in-fighting among us. Yet, someone must speak up and tell the truth. Thanks to Debbie for doing so.

    CatK on October 5, 2010 at 10:36 am

It’s a damn shame that a guy like Spencer has such terrible associations and then seeks to shut down a valuable voice like Debbies. It’s a damn shame. So much more could be gained from leading a less scumbag filled life.
This Amounpour skank has tired me out a long time ago with her crap. I’d like to see a video in the background, of some of the honor killings and throat slashings the peaceful jihadists have been doing as the phonies are speaking.

Samurai on October 4, 2010 at 10:45 pm

Crazy daisy opened a door when she said she didn’t want to waste government money hiring body guards. Why would the government. us taxpayers, pay for hers or any other civilian body guards? That cartoonist went in to hiding on her own, not at our expense. With all the death threats aimed at Debbie she doesn’t get government bodyguards, hell she can’t even get the police to respond.

Debbie is right, as long as these weak, quiet, polite, frauds are on the panel nothing is going to be exposed or proven. It is so easy to piss off a muslim in a debate, they can’t keep it together, to see that happen on TV, frequently, would actually wake some of the sheeple up.

ender on October 4, 2010 at 10:47 pm

Debbie,

Gary Bauer was on WOR radio in NYC today and said that he was edited and a lot of the points he made were cut. He also said that his own family members were turned away by ABC (people he was told he could invite), because they had already filled all the seats. He said that the audience was 90 percent stacked with Muslims by the time the participants arrived. Bauer said that when Daisy Khan entered almost the entire audience erupted in cheers. When he and others against the Ground Zero mosque walked to their seats, there was nothing but stone cold silence.

4I: Not sure what your experience with video is or isn’t, but the facts are simple: You can tell where the video was edited. And even where it was not, Robert Spencer was a buffoon uttering nonsense, like quotations and stuff about the Muslim Brotherhood that was irrelevant. He never interrupted, period. The 9/11 father did and was better. So did Gary Bauer, who said plenty and he was very good, editing or not. Spencer was an utter failure, which is obvious by what he did say. Who the audience was–and there were plenty of 9/11 family members in it–is really irrelevant to the ineptness and complete failure by Spencer. Epic fail, regardless of the excuses. I’ve seen him in (non)action before, and this is par for the course. He’s a waste of space. Spends too much time contacting people and websites to stop them from promoting my work, very little time being a decent human being or even a half-assed debater on Islam. DS

4infidels on October 4, 2010 at 10:54 pm

Ugh. No wonder DS is disgusted. That was painful. We’ve pretty much lost already. And boy, saying Spencer is a bump on a log is spot on.

Let me answer the question honestly that would get nuked from HotAir.com…YES, American’s should fear Islam. If you do not know that by now, what can I say? Like Michael Savage once screamed…”The nice people of the world will get us all killed”.

Who’s gonna have sympathy for the dopey uninformed when Sharia Law DOES take over, thanks to the squish Americans and taqiyya loving muslims?

Let’s just face it…America is strangled by PC…the facts be damned. How scary. How sad.

Gary Bauer…love his satellite show “Bauer & Rose”. “Quinn & Rose” is also a great show. Jim Quinn is one of the most fearless (and learned) talk show hosts. He’s not a squish like Michael Medved (who may be the smartest guy in the room, but what a namby-pamby!!!) and Dennis Prager!

All my fav talk-show hosts are too prissy and cowed to call out the danger of Islam (facts be damned!)as it is. They equivocate. The boldest…Jim Quinn and Rusty Humphries.

Skunky on October 4, 2010 at 11:00 pm

Spenser is even limp on his own Jihad Watch. He has been neutered by Pamela. She has his balls on display in a jar of formaldehyde.

The Shadow on October 5, 2010 at 1:57 am

    I find it interesting that everyone who seems to cross the paths of these two are met professionally with doom – what the hell? I’ve seen emails and letters and overheard conversations from several people who have met their professional demise, after working with these two – seemingly it is far worse now with Geller’s influence, and I’ve heard allegations that she has some some sort of bipolarity issue going on and cannot stand to be challenged in any sort of way (allegations only, I do not personally know this) what I don’t understand? how does Spencer TOLERATE it? I’ve found him to be intelligent, articulate and well spoken in the past…but somehow his ‘star’ has fallen – and the only thing I can think of is perhaps there is more of a personal involvement between the two of them that has clouded his judgement. (this is also the speculation, again, only speculation, that has been brought up by others in the anti-sharia community)

    people are talking – and wondering…why this person puts up with the nutty antics and isolating theatrics of this woman. if there is nothing chemical or medical going on…then she needs to work on her people skills. there are literally dozens of high ranking people who could be talking (and probably will at some point) who could be doing much more to advance the cause of ensuring the safety of americans – if these two could simply learn to work with other people without alienating everyone else around them, stealing work, stealing contracts, hogging the limelight, etc. that’s my two cents – and I’m a ‘nobody’ just an innocent onlooker who has watched in disgust for many years and felt I needed to speak out.

    S.A.

    Sarah Tate Abrams on July 7, 2011 at 3:50 pm

Debbie, you have always been the true jihad watcher, at the vanguard of this movement. I remember reading your stuff about the Muslim scumance before 9/11, before frauds like Scamela and Slobert emerged to make money off of good people’s concerns (Scamela seems to be putting it into bad cosmetic surgery). Keep up the good fight. I bet these two frauds will disappear within a few months, and you will continue on.

Harry Dearth on October 5, 2010 at 3:19 am

Perhaps they should have invited Prof. Mordechai Kedar on the anti-Islam side. He’d have trumped them all. You should find his interview on Al-Jazeera in which he TOTALLY trumped the interviewer.

SK: You must be new to this site. I was one of the first to post that video, long ago. BTW, he would not have trumped anyone because his knowledge about Muslims in America is even worse than Robert Spencer’s. The issues in that debate are my expertise, not his (and clearly not anyone on the “anti-Islam” side of the panel’s). DS

Steve Katz on October 5, 2010 at 7:44 am

Deb:

I know that Spencer/Geller have shortcomings. Knowing Christiann Amampour for what she is, Robert shouldn’t have graced her by going on her show, IMHO. I’d also add that I don’t like the way Robert always seems to have his nose up Pam Geller’s hind end all the time. So yah, I think it’s reasonable to criticize Robert Spencer.

I know that Robert Spencer has treated you unfairly on many occasions. At the end of the day, your investigative work provides a service to your readers and there isn’t much Robert Spencer can do about it.

There is NO Santa Claus on October 5, 2010 at 8:18 am

Great observation(s)! Seems Spencer and Geller are similar to; Doug Hagmann (Northeast Intelligence Network) and his lawyer Jack Thompson (DMCA bs), Hannity (plaigiarist and Hal Turner “friend,” and Vannity’s contract with ABC Radio), amongst others. Lust, greed, and pride always get in the way of absolute truth. Keep on keepin’ on Debbie!

Sick_Boy on October 5, 2010 at 8:33 am

Of course that pig, Amanpour, would only invite soft spoken or non-experts to debate the radical Muslim jihadists she loves. It would be too obvious, if she was to invite someone like Debbie, who would actually state how Americans feel about Muslims and their cult religion. It would be a betrayal, to her Muslim buddies, for Amanpig to put someone on TV that would counter the lies of Islam and articulate, in front of the lame stream media (and the world), how we in the US truly feel, think and why we question these ingrate, 7th Century ass-backwards people. It would not be kosher for Amanpourpig; Al-Qaida would take away her honorary jihadi hijab.
Hell, she knew Saddam Hussein butchered and slaughtered 300,000 Iraqis and said nothing, reported nothing to the world. She should be tried for being complacent and accessory to crimes against humanity and genocide. She kept her filthy trap shut so CNN could keep their news office in Baghdad. Human life means nothing to her. She’s a f*cking pig (my apologies to the swine family). So what’s a few thousand dead Americans to her? This type of “breakthrough debate” also helps keep the lie of “moderate Muslims” alive for her, in her diabolical and twisted mind, along with her progressive pig liberals friends and American hating Democrats and jihadists lovers. F*ck U!!!

Saw right through that whole staged B.S. of hers and ABC. They can keep their “breakthrough cultural debates” I’ll keep my guns and ammo and be vigilant of the enemy.

Rounds coming down range…..and sharpen your bayonets

The Sarge on October 5, 2010 at 8:48 am

All terrorists are Muslim.PERIOD. They are a problem in every country that they inhabit. They don’t belong in countries that value western values.

JF on October 5, 2010 at 9:38 am

Hey CJ,

I believe in forgiveness, if the ones who have wronged you are sincere and honest. But Islam, and their followers, have not shown any sincerety or honesty. I cannot “look into their hearts” but I see what their actions or LACK of actions tell me. Look at Europe and how they are trying to change it. See what they are doing in Africa to the Christians and non-believers. In fact, they are trying to demand that we, in the US, accept them as the victims! WTF? They come to my country and want US to assimilate to their culture. Their kin butcher my people and they want me to apologies for not trusting them? They want my country’s riches but want to destroy the mechanisms that make it work? When and where do we see the need for us to forgive them? I don’t. THEY have not taken any steps to be civilized. Israel has tried to seek peace with these butchers for about 60+ years. What has Israel gotten in return? Murders, wars, lies, anti-Semitism,broken “peace” treaties….

Nah, I’ll stick with my Revolutionary-Founding Fathers. Those that do not want to join this club…Move, leave, we don’t need you or your poisonous kind here. Go kill or destroy another part of the world and get what you deserve. Don’t cry wolf when they’re wolves in sheeps clothing.

Later. Easy steady squeeze – BOOM!!

The Sarge

The Sarge on October 5, 2010 at 10:44 am

I can’t watch that “C-U-next-tuesday”. Americans , for the most part, are too ignorant and too naive when it comes to the evils of Islam.

BK on October 5, 2010 at 11:35 am

roger:

The problem is that a lot of people are riding this “anti-jihad” thing to make a quick and easy buck. They aren’t willing to put in the work required to learn what is going on because they are lazy profiteers. And they aren’t willing to challenge assumptions or talk about anything really controversial because it would alienate their best customers. They are just making money telling people who already agree with them what they want to hear.

G: Exactly. Slobbert and Scamela are being paid over $500K per year through the David Horowitz Freedom Center, money that Slobbert is “earning” by contacting websites and other parties to demand that they stop promoting my work–the real work against jihad. He is watching jihad. I’m actually doing stuff to expose and fight it, in court and elsewhere. DS

Gerald on October 5, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Give em hell Debbie, pour it on, don’t let these wannabe jihad phoney baloney posters (Geller and Spencer) get out from under your spotlight, the cockroaches are scrambling for the dark corners and your foot is about to shut them down for good!

Geller…….liar, used car dealer with blood on her hands.
Spencer……phoney, cheat, false prophet for the right.

Bill Warner
private investigator

bill warner on October 5, 2010 at 2:57 pm

“would they denounce Hezbollah–which murdered hundreds of Americans, HAMAS, Islamic Jihad, etc.?”

That’s too specific. They won’t do anything that might commit them to action in defense of the West or Israel.

S2: That’s exactly why it should have been asked. But it wasn’t done b/c Slobbert Spencer is incompetent and was a waste of space on that panel. DS

Solomon2 on October 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm

DS, who do you recommend to win “a debate against Islam”?

S2: Me, Rachel Ehrenfeld, the JIDF, etc. DS

Solomon2 on October 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm

Jihad Watch is a site I no longer visit because of the poor quality of many of the article cited. When one uses WND as a link for a story, it is a certainty that the site is a pretty low grade one. Also, Mr. Spencer has let Islamists and atheists hector and and abuse participants to such an extent that the site lost any value as a forum for discussion. Only utterly crude language or support for mass genocide could get a poster booted. One can tell that Jihad Watch is not longer significant, since it is not frequently cited as a source anymore.

Worry01 on October 6, 2010 at 12:49 am

Oh debbie please, U should have know that “this ABC This week with Christiane Amenpour” debate is likely had been planned before. I don’t want to make any assumpsyion in here. Just saw the atmosphere of the studio: the audience wasn’t half of 9/11 family victim members,they face 70% was arabs/south asian faces and 5 of them is wearing scarf. only litle white faces on the audience, infact many victims of 9/11 tragedi is whites. and other things that made me belived this debate was planned before was the host,Christiane Amenpour, everybody can saw how this women take muslim side on the debate. she gave hard question frequenlty to Graham, Beuer and others.and the thing that made me laugh that she almost fight with Gary Baeuer and pretend like she was daisy khan. Information for you debbie, Christiane Amenpour’s father is muslim iranian, his name is mohammed, so i doubt Amenpour netralism in this debates because she look upset on the debates. it’s shame on Amenpour realized that she was an journalist that contradict with what she did as host in this debate. I want you to exposed about this Debbie, because i think you are the true jihad watcher. Robert spencer maight be paid by ABC too so he was part of this planned. u know for some reason i can belived Spencer almost quite in that debate, it was contradicted with his view about islam in his blog. it just shown that spencer is just another clow that digs money from muslim pandering and muslim enemies, shame on he! thanks debbie for your post, I think i’m gonna make blog like you!

Obbie Afri Gultom on October 6, 2010 at 7:09 pm

It seems that all of the other anti jihad talking heads have either stolen Debbie’s stories or otherwise treated her horribly. They are cretins and frauds.

Dana on October 6, 2011 at 5:14 pm

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